Massive Riots in France

[johnny]

Originally posted by Timber Loftis: Terrorist. Revolutionary. Freedom Fighter. Patriot. Oppressed. Liberator. It's all about point of view, isn't it?

Whatever, they're thrashing the place, they need an asswhooping.

[Stratos]

What is the army gonna do that the police can't? Start gunning people down? We're talking about a bunch of teenage punks here.

[Sir Degrader]

Teenage punks my ass, these are the next generation of Mohammed Atta's, we have to get rid of them before they get rid of us.

[Ziroc]

10-4. I'm wondering if France is going to ask for help?

[johnny]

Originally posted by Stratos: What is the army gonna do that the police can't? Start gunning people down? We're talking about a bunch of teenage punks here.

I just saw an interview with one of the mobsters on CNN, who also appears to be a rapper from a group that calls themselves "the new African Poets", he said that young AND old are standing together in this. It's not a band of kids on a rampage, it's a complete uprising. I've seen footage of others involved as well, and they were no kids either, they were all guys between the ages of 25 and 35. Last time i checked people of that age are accounted for as adults. You are still underestimating the danger of this situation.

[shamrock_uk]

Originally posted by johnny: I bet if this was happening in Algeria, it would have been over days ago.

Hasn't Algeria been in a state of perpetual riot for the last decade or so?

Who would they get help from? And what could another country do that France couldn't if they put their mind to it?

The risk about sending the army in is that they just act as a focul point for the violence - tanks and APC's become a target for molotov cocktails for example. A tank getting stuff thrown at it from a mob simply looks impotent. If the army aren't actually allowed to use overwhelming lethal force (and it's unlikely they would be) then I'm not convinced it would contribute much to the current situation.

[ 11-08-2005, 04:51 PM: Message edited by: shamrock_uk ]

[johnny]

Originally posted by shamrock_uk: quote: Originally posted by johnny: I bet if this was happening in Algeria, it would have been over days ago.

Hasn't Algeria been in a state of perpetual riot for the last decade or so? [/QUOTE]They have trouble with a group of fundamentalists who call themselves FIS, that's different than a stampeding horde within the citylimits. They strike and dissapear to their hideouts before the authorities arrive. Different situation.

http://www.iss.co.za/PUBS/MONOGRAPHS/No74/Chap6.html

[johnny]

The risk about sending the army in is that they just act as a focul point for the violence - tanks and APC's become a target for molotov cocktails for example. A tank getting stuff thrown at it from a mob simply looks impotent. If the army aren't actually allowed to use lethal force (and it's unlikely they would be) then I'm not convinced it would contribute much to the current situation.

Who says anything about tanks, haven't they learned anything from Los Angeles 1992 ? The answers are right there

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On April 29, 1992, twelve jurors in Sylmar, California rendered their verdicts in a controversial case involving the 1991 beating of Rodney King by four LAPD officers. The case had received heavy media coverage dating from before it even went to trial, when a video of the beating hit the national airwaves. It came as a surprise then, as the verdicts were read: One of the officers was found guilty of excessive force; the other officers were cleared of all charges.
The verdicts were broadcast live, and word spread quickly throughout Los Angeles. At various points throughout the city that afternoon, people began rioting. For the next three days the violence and mayhem continued. Mayor Tom Bradley imposed a curfew, schools and businesses were closed. Governor Pete Wilson dispatched 4,000 National Guard troops to patrol the streets. People stayed home, watching on TV with the rest of the country as live TV coverage showed fires raging throughout the city, innocent bystanders being assaulted and looters sacking businesses.

On Monday, May 4, schools and businesses reopened and life returned to some semblance of normality. The toll from the worst civil unrest LA had experienced since 1965 was devastating: more than 50 killed, over 4 thousand injured, 12,000 people arrested, and $1 billion in property damage.

[Sir Degrader]

If this happened in Algeria, you can bet your ass that France would fight, kinda like this . Seriously though, this is an absolute disgrace. Us civilized folk must make a stand. Bugger these primitives, destroy them and rebuild.

[Sir Degrader]

Originally posted by shamrock_uk: quote: Originally posted by johnny: [qb]I bet if this was happening in Algeria, it would have been over days ago.

The risk about sending the army in is that they just act as a focul point for the violence - tanks and APC's become a target for molotov cocktails for example. A tank getting stuff thrown at it from a mob simply looks impotent. If the army aren't actually allowed to use overwhelming lethal force (and it's unlikely they would be) /QB][/QUOTE]Tanks and APC's aren't needed IMO. What is needed is fellows like the Scorpions. Timely and limited use of them can terrify the populace into stopping. If they keep it up, then simply use them as firefighters. Horrific yes, but well needed. This has gone on long enough.