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Old 01-17-2005, 04:42 PM   #61
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Jeez. I leave for a week and y'all are courting LIVE actors again. Tsk.

Animated > live action for two reasons: sound and image.

Image: People are taking the familiar portraits and trying to find actors who fit the picture. If a film wanted to stick as close to the source material as possible, animation is key. (Y'all are also going for Hollywood celebrities and it can be difficult to get celebrities to work together on the same picture.) I also think it's better to do spellcraft in animation rather than CGI, but that's personal preference.

Sound: Many people mentioned keeping David Warner as Irenicus. Irenicus is one buff ex-elf. David Warner is a once-robust old man. Rob Paulsen (Anomen's voice actor) looks nothing like Anomen. Also, the voice acting in the BG series is top-notch. Rob Paulsen is also the voice of Yakko Warner, Pinky from Pinky and the Brain, and many, many other things. Flip through the vocal credits on a cartoon or video game, and dollars to donuts, he's there. The vocals make the game--I think they can also make a movie.

Actors. Shame on you. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Hey, I thought I had made a good case for anime earlier by pointing out Record of Lodoss War.
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Old 01-17-2005, 04:44 PM   #62
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Plus, not too many fantasy movies I can think of with a female fighter as the lead.
I can really only think of Red Sonya


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Old 01-17-2005, 07:08 PM   #63
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I can really only think of Red Sonya
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Unless you count Angelina Jolie in the Tomb Raider series.

A couple of other celebrity suggestions.

Ah-nold would probably be one of the best choices for Minsc.
Orland Bloom for Haer'Daelis.
Ron Perlman for Sarevok.

Still don't have a good idea for Irenicus. I'm not familiar with the guy that was suggested earlier, so I'll just defer to those who are familiar with him that he would be a good choice.
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Old 01-17-2005, 07:42 PM   #64
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Isnt Sarevok black? Ron Pearlman wouldnt work for that.
Orlando Bloom's a good 1 for Haer'Daelis

And Jerr, i think if they did a movie and came right out and said the PC was a thief but stil use a lot of action it would work. But no one's wanting the PC to backstab the bad guy to death. Even in Robin Hood, the climax was a straight up sword fight.
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Old 01-17-2005, 08:51 PM   #65
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ion gruffudd has got a carismatic voice, the welsh accent, how could you say no! definately a keldorn or anomen type charicter
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Old 01-17-2005, 10:28 PM   #66
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Isnt Sarevok black? Ron Pearlman wouldnt work for that.
Orlando Bloom's a good 1 for Haer'Daelis

And Jerr, i think if they did a movie and came right out and said the PC was a thief but stil use a lot of action it would work. But no one's wanting the PC to backstab the bad guy to death. Even in Robin Hood, the climax was a straight up sword fight.
Thieves can fight. At least mine can
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Old 01-17-2005, 10:30 PM   #67
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Plus, not too many fantasy movies I can think of with a female fighter as the lead.
I can really only think of Red Sonya


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[/QUOTE]Yea, Red Sonja came to mind. She reminded me of a female Conan though, with more lines.
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Old 01-18-2005, 04:48 AM   #68
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Thieves can fight. At least mine can
This is one of the things that the DnD movie actually got right. Towards the end of the movie, the PC gets in a stand-up fight against the fighter/villain. The thief did OK for the first 2-3 rounds, but the longer the battle lasted, the more the superior technique of the fighter asserted itself.

Thieves are NOT designed to be toe-to-toe melee characters (with swashbucklers being the possible exception). Robin Hood is not a good example, because he was an archer first and a thief second. If anything, he was a fighter/thief.

There would be nothing wrong with primary PC being a thief. In the final battle, he/she has been captured by the antagonist and the rest of the party comes to the rescue. After a fierce battle, the villain has the upper hand and is about to deliver the coup de grace, when a sword suddenly explodes through his chest from behind. He turns in shock to see the thief PC standing there. He looks over at the shackles that had been holding the PC and sees them dangling from the wall. He looks back to the PC, who holds up his lockpicks and says...

"Never turn your back on a thief".
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Old 01-18-2005, 11:07 AM   #69
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Plus, not too many fantasy movies I can think of with a female fighter as the lead.
I can really only think of Red Sonya


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[/QUOTE]Yea, Red Sonja came to mind. She reminded me of a female Conan though, with more lines.
[/QUOTE]Wasn't she actually intended to be the 'female Conan'?


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p.s. On a side note, anyone from the UK seen that advert with the parody of Conan on? For like Milkyway or Mars or something?
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:42 PM   #70
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Thieves can fight. At least mine can
This is one of the things that the DnD movie actually got right. Towards the end of the movie, the PC gets in a stand-up fight against the fighter/villain. The thief did OK for the first 2-3 rounds, but the longer the battle lasted, the more the superior technique of the fighter asserted itself.

Thieves are NOT designed to be toe-to-toe melee characters (with swashbucklers being the possible exception). Robin Hood is not a good example, because he was an archer first and a thief second. If anything, he was a fighter/thief.

There would be nothing wrong with primary PC being a thief. In the final battle, he/she has been captured by the antagonist and the rest of the party comes to the rescue. After a fierce battle, the villain has the upper hand and is about to deliver the coup de grace, when a sword suddenly explodes through his chest from behind. He turns in shock to see the thief PC standing there. He looks over at the shackles that had been holding the PC and sees them dangling from the wall. He looks back to the PC, who holds up his lockpicks and says...

"Never turn your back on a thief".
[/QUOTE]Yea, out of all my thieves only my Fighter/Thief and Swashbuckler can hold their own (In a straight up fight, backstab evens the odds). Swashbuckler after level 12.

This is in BG1 and 2 though. In Icewind Dale 2, with weapon specialization available, my thieves fight well. It also helps I max out Dexterity. Also, there are those skills that help a thief out (Like dodge).

It's been a long time since I've seen the D&D movie, so I can't remember if the theif won the fight or someone else killed the fighter.

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