09-25-2001, 12:39 AM | #61 | |
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I was talking about Afgahni laws on Afgahni soil! It is not for one nation to adjudicate on the validity of anothers justice system, or is it? Perhaps the international community should invade America because they still have the death penalty. You cannot, cannot presume American justice to apply globally. It is the hight of imperialistic arrogance to do so. Bin Laden has done nothing wrong in the eyes of his Wahabi Sunni supporters in Afgahnistan, which was why I made the analogy. They would actually be breaking Islamic law in handing him over. Problem time yes? ------------------ I am the walrus!.... er, no hang on.... A fair dinkum laughing Hyena! |
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09-25-2001, 12:41 AM | #62 |
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The above is why I stated in Diogenes thread that we must be honest about calling this a war.
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09-25-2001, 12:49 AM | #63 | |
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Oh, and PLEASE don't bring up the giving them proof subject. They would have found something wrong with it even if we had pictures of him smiling at the airport seeing them off while handing them boxcutters. ------------------ Captain of Bouncers, Boogre Bar LH Member And you never did think that it ever would happen again, in America did you? And you never did think that we'd ever get together again, but we damn sure fooled ya. We're walkin' real proud and we're talkin' real loud again, in America. And you never did think that it ever would happen again.... (Charlie Daniels) |
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09-25-2001, 12:53 AM | #64 | |
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09-25-2001, 12:58 AM | #65 |
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Its clear to me that emotion has tangled up the argument on this thread, I'm not going there anymore. I can't understand the double standards. crimes for some, acts of war for others. Mcviegh commited an act of war, a terrorist act of war, and recieved american justice for a criminal act, oh yeah hes an american, so he gets a trial before he is executed. Double standard, oh no, these terrorists are at war with us. what was mcveigh? at peace? just a criminal? would we have this arguement if mcviegh had managed to kill 10,000? International law, us law, afgan law,...what ever.
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09-25-2001, 01:10 AM | #66 | |
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I guess that maybe I should have spelled it out originally to avoid this confusion. ------------------ Captain of Bouncers, Boogre Bar LH Member And you never did think that it ever would happen again, in America did you? And you never did think that we'd ever get together again, but we damn sure fooled ya. We're walkin' real proud and we're talkin' real loud again, in America. And you never did think that it ever would happen again.... (Charlie Daniels) [This message has been edited by Liliara (edited 09-25-2001).] |
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09-25-2001, 01:14 AM | #67 | |
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09-25-2001, 01:21 AM | #68 | |
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------------------ Captain of Bouncers, Boogre Bar LH Member And you never did think that it ever would happen again, in America did you? And you never did think that we'd ever get together again, but we damn sure fooled ya. We're walkin' real proud and we're talkin' real loud again, in America. And you never did think that it ever would happen again.... (Charlie Daniels) |
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09-25-2001, 01:49 AM | #70 | |
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Wahabi Sunni Islamic extremists regard the USA as a den of evil. Of moral corruption. Of Imperialists whose presence on the holy soil of Arabia (under the Sauds) is an extreme offense. Their interpretation of Islamic law creates a society totally different from the west. It is wrong for them to hand a muslim over to non-muslims. With McVeigh it was cut and dried. US national commits crime on US soil, and is arrested in America. Here we have forien national conspiring to a crime on US soil, but not something considered a crime in the land he is residing. Big difference. Enter the quagmire of international relations, and thus War as a solution of extreme last resort. ------------------ I am the walrus!.... er, no hang on.... A fair dinkum laughing Hyena! [This message has been edited by Yorick (edited 09-25-2001).] |
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