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6 posts in a row Yorick? *sheesh*
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please take the time to read it yorick (and anyone else who is interested), from what i can see it is a very well researched site, i'd be interested to hear your opinion on it....
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I don't know what the case is where you live, but here, Anastacia's latest got nothing but crap reviews. Quite a few international reviews I've read bashed "Freak of Nature" pretty badly as well. I personally think Anastacia has one of the most irritating voices I've ever heard (it's unique, I'll give her that) and I find her music piss-poor, nearly unlistenable. I don't even know anyone who likes her. Unfortunately, I've heard nothing about her album not being successful or her career going down the drain. Her album was at Nr. 1 for quite some time and it brought worldwide sales to approx. 15 million copies sold. How about Eminem then? His entire album was also available on the net several months before it's release Still, "The Eminem Show" was one, if not the most successful album of the year. He clearly did not suffer much from internet piracy. How about Oasis? Their case is similar to Eminem's as I've already said, and "Heathen Chemistry" went on to spend two weeks on the Nr 1 spot in England, outsell their predecessor, and have two Nr 1 singles (one of them for several weeks!) and two Nr 2 singles. They clearly did not suffer from internet piracy either. Quote:
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Record prices sky-rocketing the past few years is the main reason why CD sales have dropped. Go around and ask people in the street if they buy as many records now as they used to, ask why if they say no. I bet the vast majority will say that they simply cost too much now a days. I'm not very old and even I remember a time when CD's didn't cost much more than half of what they cost today. Of course people are more reluctant to buy records today when they have to shell out almost twice as much money for it! Quote:
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While I agree that in the end it's the artists' call whether they want their music to be shared or not (the most vocal anti-mp3 artists are mostly major label acts like Metallica, Dr. Dre and Eminem, whose music I couldn't care less about, btw ![]() And what these major record companies did as their answer to the file-swapping and decline in sales was buy even more airplay (or at least that was the case here in the Netherlands, as all even remotely "adventurous" (indie)music was bullied off the airwaves, in favour of more boring uniformity), litterally stuffing their artists (like Anastacia, for instance) in the faces of their target audience. But if a song is played once an hour on all major radiostations for months and months in a row, they shouldn't be surprised when it loses its appeal, and people refrain from buying the CD... With this overexposure, they're literally treating even some of their best and sincerest artists as mere disposables, making songs lose their exclusiveness and getting the exact opposite effect of what they wanted. Because when music loses too much of its exclusiveness, I think the target audience will be more eager to download rather than buying that music; I can see why especially the major record companies are not all too happy about p2p-filesharing programs. ![]() And I actually think the aversion towards "popular" music is bigger than it ever was; not necessarily because it's that much worse than in previous decades, but because of that very same overexposure and the existence of easier acquirable alternatives which sound more exclusive and fresher. And maybe it's mostly based on personal observations (I occasionally lurk at the Matador messageboard and other independent record labels' sites), but I believe most of the indie labels who didn't have any of the media exposure in the pre-mp3 period don't really seem to mind file-swapping that much; as for them it only means that while their artists mostly had to rely on mouth-to-mouth-recommendations, people nowadays actually have a chance to listen to their artists' music as well, making it a worthy substitute for the lack of radio/tv airplay which the major record companies always seemed to control. Publicity-wise, file-swapping has helped these artists getting heard by more people than could ever have been the case in a world without mp3s; and as the nature of their music is a lot more exclusive than those being crammed down people's throats on radio and tv (even if only because of the difference in exposure), people who like artists of both categories equally much are also more eager to buy a CD of the lesser known artist than pay up to $24 dollars-ish (that's the current new-price for most major record label CD's in my country nowadays in the "major" record stores, about 21-23 Euro ![]() But anyways... Taking into account I'm an active user of p2p-programs and also taking into account how I deal with those obtained mp3s (namely use them as samples to decide whether to buy the CD or not, a tactic which ended up in me buying more than 150 CD's in less than a year's time), am I a thief as well by your definition? Because personally, I'd rather blame p2p-software for making me buy more CD's than for the opposite. ![]() [ 04-14-2003, 10:19 AM: Message edited by: Grojlach ]
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I want to clarify that I'm not into file sharing anymore. I played with it a little when Napster first came out. I buy CD's mostly used, online, and from Columbia House now. I have a collection of over 100. I think that it's true the younger crowd is buying less music because of file sharing and CD burners. I'm not sure that it's any more than it used to be due to tape recorders with enhanced features for dubbing. Young folks have limited cash anyway. Also, let's not forget that the economy is down right now and has been sliding for some years. The first expenses to go in any budget is entertainment. I think that a lot of the lower income group isn't buying music at all right now. I know my income earning loss has contributed to me buying very little music lately, and the stuff I do buy I don't pay full price. A frugal attitude toward controllable expenses is the norm right now I think. That surely has to hurt the music industry badly (among others). Console and computer games are also competing more with music these days too. Free time is always a limited asset. The more you do of one recreational thing, the less you'll do of the others. To blame this downturn soley on file sharing is too simplistic.
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