Imoen Same-Sex Romance - Page 6

Galadria · 02-19-2002, 08:48 AM

Oh, and also, Azred, Aerie is NOT attracted to Imoen or the PC. This is part of the script goes: "Aerie: Imoen, I see you are still sleeping in the same bedroll as (character). Are you still having nighmares? I know that I still dream about having my wings amputated, so I know how you feel. Imoen: Gosh, thanks Aerie. I didn't think that anyone would understand, but maybe you do. I'm just glad that (character) is indulging me. I do feel so much safer next to her." I should note that at this point, the situation has not gotten sexual.
Adding another aspect, I just got a e-mail from another female player who thinks that, absent another romance, a female player really has been romancing Imoen all along. It is the males who find her whiny. Women feel that she is just confiding in them, as we do. I think that this is extreme, as I know my husband and stepson adore Imoen.

[ 02-19-2002: Message edited by: Galadria ]

Tanoch Thas'ala · 02-19-2002, 11:46 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Whailor:
Well, just to add to the comment "men too if there are any" -

That quote came out all wrong. I apologize to anyone who was offended. By that quote, I ment to include the men who are victims, it just burbled out wrong.

Memnoch, I re-read my post and I'm not sure where you thought I was flaming. However, I again want to apologize, it is not my intent to flame anyone, just carry on a discussion..

Azred · 02-19-2002, 12:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Galadria:
Wow. Azred, I am e-mailing your post to Columbus, to see if that helps. I am sure that the Nalia romance conflict may be involved, because we both have downloaded it, and we both have Nal in our party, to judge from the saved games that he has e-mailed me. As for time, who knows? He is struggling with several bugs, and would really like to see it go gold. I'll keep everybody posted, so to speak. I am now at work on the conflict between Anomen and Imoen, for the PC's affection, as Columbus doesn't like his, and we really could get some resonance, there. I told him that I didn't think that anyone who would want to do the Imoen romance would be romancing Anomen, but he seems to think that it's important. How about starting out: Anomen: "My lady, I cannot help but notice that you have allowed your sister to sleep with you since we rescued her, after declining my offer." LOL

Oh, and also, Azred, Aerie is NOT attracted to Imoen or the PC. This is part of the script goes: "Aerie: Imoen, I see you are still sleeping in the same bedroll as (character). Are you still having nighmares? I know that I still dream about having my wings amputated, so I know how you feel. Imoen: Gosh, thanks Aerie. I didn't think that anyone would understand, but maybe you do. I'm just glad that (character) is indulging me. I do feel so much safer next to her." I should note that at this point, the situation has not gotten sexual.
Adding another aspect, I just got a e-mail from another female player who thinks that, absent another romance, a female player really has been romancing Imoen all along. It is the males who find her whiny. Women feel that she is just confiding in them, as we do. I think that this is extreme, as I know my husband and stepson adore Imoen.

Well, I am no fan of the Nalia romance, because I will have to uninstall the game, clean out my override folder completely, and then reinstall--I can't load my saved games for item/spell experimentation for my new creations. Oh, well....

I am flattered that you think my input is valuable.

I hope Columbus thinks so, also. I didn't even think about possbile conflict between Anomen and Imoen. I guess even I can't think of everything! [img]tongue.gif[/img] @ self [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img] Does he just whine about the PC choosing her or would he go so far as to throw a fit and actually attack? Anomen, Anomen, Anomen... [img]graemlins/dontknowaboutyou.gif[/img]

Those were just some random thoughts about Aerie. I've always thought that Aerie and Imoen would become great friends, having some similarities in their histories, etc.

Imoen? Whiny? [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img] I've never thought so. Of course, I've never thought that Aerie was whiny, either, even though many others do.

Getting back onto the topic now, keep us all updated on the progress of the romance, if you would, please. If either you or Columbus think I could be of any possible help, then do not hesitate to let me know.

Galadria · 02-19-2002, 01:14 PM

Azred, I know that Columbus' original script had the Anomen romance going, and when he made some Lovetalk to the PC, Immie buts in and says, "What do you mean sleep next to you? She's MY sister, and we've slept together since we were girls in Candlekeep." and it goes on from there. Anomen calls her a brat and tells her to grow up.

I am reworking this, since the scene he apparantly was thinking of occurs quite early, and the other lovetalks don't really go with this. But I do like it that Anomen calls Immie a brat, so I'm keeping that part.

[ 02-19-2002: Message edited by: Galadria ]

Azred · 02-19-2002, 01:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Galadria:
But I do like it that Anomen calls Immie a brat, so I'm keeping that part.

[img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img] I know what you mean. Like he is in a position to call anyone else a brat.

mental note to self: I suppose I am now a member of Galadria's Anti-Anomen Society....

[ 02-19-2002: Message edited by: Azred ]

Galadria · 02-19-2002, 02:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Azred:

[img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img] I know what you mean. Like he is in a position to call anyone else a brat.

mental note to self: I suppose I am now a member of Galadria's Anti-Anomen Society....

[ 02-19-2002: Message edited by: Azred ]

Ha, Ha, you are now a member.

Tancred · 02-19-2002, 02:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Helspanth:
I haven't read the novel,so I don't get your point.
Care to elaborate?

Um... the novel bears little similarity to the game, basically. if you take away the names and settings, the written story is somewhat divergent from the original. Less of a point, more of a quip.

02-19-2002, 04:27 PM

Galadria, after being away from the forums for quite a while, I come back to find you working on something I've wanted in the game since BG I! Fantastic!
For my part, I fiddled with the romance variables to get my lead character, a half-elf female ranger, hooked up with Jaheira. It worked tolerably well so far ( I haven't finished the game yet) but there were numerous annoying little inconsistencies. It sounds like the expansion you're working on will really give this game the depth of interpersonal intensity I was hoping for.
It is sad, yet understandable, that some things were probably unapproachable for the dev team due to marketing concerns. I'm very happy that you're pursuing this, and I hope it all goes well.
For what it's worth, although Anomen's character is necessary as a foil, he irritates the hell out of me. Modelled on far too many men that I have met.

Gabriel · 02-19-2002, 05:01 PM

I know this is touched on already and people have desired that everyone has there own ideals but I like to ask how exactly raping Imoen fitted in Jon plans?
He did not desire to break here sprite because it would not of severed his cause, a broken child of Bhaal will not feel the blood lust needed to start the powers. As for the knives and such that, even thought it was, in his mind torture as he did it to both Jheria and Minsc, probably Khild and Daynia as well. It was a test to see if the person was a Bhaal child. After like in the Khild experiment he tried to bring her to be fascinated with death.
And in the speech of the Dryads they said they WERE his concubines and imply he had stopped using them.
And on Spell hold he just ripped her soul from her body by magic, the test on the inmates were probably to see if the instability was due to a Bhall essence.
As for the whole incest bit the Parent was a god and half the time their not even the same speices.

Mortis · 02-19-2002, 05:41 PM

Alright peeps, new kid in this forum just discovered the site. Im intrigued by this Imoen romance thing, but after reading through the post im not sure what ur all on about and how to get it to work. Forgive me if im soundin stupid but cud someone explain to me the basics of how this works.

Soz for soundin a fool

02-19-2002, 08:48 AM	#51
Galadria 20th Level Warrior Join Date: November 3, 2001 Location: Texas Age: 55 Posts: 2,830	Oh, and also, Azred, Aerie is NOT attracted to Imoen or the PC. This is part of the script goes: "Aerie: Imoen, I see you are still sleeping in the same bedroll as (character). Are you still having nighmares? I know that I still dream about having my wings amputated, so I know how you feel. Imoen: Gosh, thanks Aerie. I didn't think that anyone would understand, but maybe you do. I'm just glad that (character) is indulging me. I do feel so much safer next to her." I should note that at this point, the situation has not gotten sexual. Adding another aspect, I just got a e-mail from another female player who thinks that, absent another romance, a female player really has been romancing Imoen all along. It is the males who find her whiny. Women feel that she is just confiding in them, as we do. I think that this is extreme, as I know my husband and stepson adore Imoen. [ 02-19-2002: Message edited by: Galadria ] __________________ Lady Galadria,Goddess\' Equal of the O.R.T.; [img]\"http://havak.db-forge.com/portraits/bitmaps/wlf180L.bmp\" alt=\" - \" /><br />\"Romance at short notice was her specialty.\" - Saki <br />Founder of the IW Branch of the Anti-Anomen Society

02-19-2002, 11:46 AM	#52
Tanoch Thas'ala Banned User Join Date: February 14, 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 336	quote: Originally posted by Whailor: Well, just to add to the comment "men too if there are any" - That quote came out all wrong. I apologize to anyone who was offended. By that quote, I ment to include the men who are victims, it just burbled out wrong. Memnoch, I re-read my post and I'm not sure where you thought I was flaming. However, I again want to apologize, it is not my intent to flame anyone, just carry on a discussion..

02-19-2002, 12:52 PM	#53
Azred Drow Priestess Join Date: March 13, 2001 Location: a hidden sanctorum high above the metroplex Age: 55 Posts: 4,037	quote: Originally posted by Galadria: Wow. Azred, I am e-mailing your post to Columbus, to see if that helps. I am sure that the Nalia romance conflict may be involved, because we both have downloaded it, and we both have Nal in our party, to judge from the saved games that he has e-mailed me. As for time, who knows? He is struggling with several bugs, and would really like to see it go gold. I'll keep everybody posted, so to speak. I am now at work on the conflict between Anomen and Imoen, for the PC's affection, as Columbus doesn't like his, and we really could get some resonance, there. I told him that I didn't think that anyone who would want to do the Imoen romance would be romancing Anomen, but he seems to think that it's important. How about starting out: Anomen: "My lady, I cannot help but notice that you have allowed your sister to sleep with you since we rescued her, after declining my offer." LOL Oh, and also, Azred, Aerie is NOT attracted to Imoen or the PC. This is part of the script goes: "Aerie: Imoen, I see you are still sleeping in the same bedroll as (character). Are you still having nighmares? I know that I still dream about having my wings amputated, so I know how you feel. Imoen: Gosh, thanks Aerie. I didn't think that anyone would understand, but maybe you do. I'm just glad that (character) is indulging me. I do feel so much safer next to her." I should note that at this point, the situation has not gotten sexual. Adding another aspect, I just got a e-mail from another female player who thinks that, absent another romance, a female player really has been romancing Imoen all along. It is the males who find her whiny. Women feel that she is just confiding in them, as we do. I think that this is extreme, as I know my husband and stepson adore Imoen. Well, I am no fan of the Nalia romance, because I will have to uninstall the game, clean out my override folder completely, and then reinstall--I can't load my saved games for item/spell experimentation for my new creations. Oh, well.... I am flattered that you think my input is valuable. I hope Columbus thinks so, also. I didn't even think about possbile conflict between Anomen and Imoen. I guess even I can't think of everything! [img]tongue.gif[/img] @ self [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img] Does he just whine about the PC choosing her or would he go so far as to throw a fit and actually attack? Anomen, Anomen, Anomen... [img]graemlins/dontknowaboutyou.gif[/img] Those were just some random thoughts about Aerie. I've always thought that Aerie and Imoen would become great friends, having some similarities in their histories, etc. Imoen? Whiny? [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img] I've never thought so. Of course, I've never thought that Aerie was whiny, either, even though many others do. Getting back onto the topic now, keep us all updated on the progress of the romance, if you would, please. If either you or Columbus think I could be of any possible help, then do not hesitate to let me know. __________________ Everything may be explained by a conspiracy theory. All conspiracy theories are true. No matter how thinly you slice it, it's still bologna.

02-19-2002, 01:14 PM	#54
Galadria 20th Level Warrior Join Date: November 3, 2001 Location: Texas Age: 55 Posts: 2,830	Azred, I know that Columbus' original script had the Anomen romance going, and when he made some Lovetalk to the PC, Immie buts in and says, "What do you mean sleep next to you? She's MY sister, and we've slept together since we were girls in Candlekeep." and it goes on from there. Anomen calls her a brat and tells her to grow up. I am reworking this, since the scene he apparantly was thinking of occurs quite early, and the other lovetalks don't really go with this. But I do like it that Anomen calls Immie a brat, so I'm keeping that part. [ 02-19-2002: Message edited by: Galadria ] __________________ Lady Galadria,Goddess\' Equal of the O.R.T.; [img]\"http://havak.db-forge.com/portraits/bitmaps/wlf180L.bmp\" alt=\" - \" /><br />\"Romance at short notice was her specialty.\" - Saki <br />Founder of the IW Branch of the Anti-Anomen Society

02-19-2002, 01:25 PM	#55
Azred Drow Priestess Join Date: March 13, 2001 Location: a hidden sanctorum high above the metroplex Age: 55 Posts: 4,037	quote: Originally posted by Galadria: But I do like it that Anomen calls Immie a brat, so I'm keeping that part. [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img] I know what you mean. Like he is in a position to call anyone else a brat. mental note to self: I suppose I am now a member of Galadria's Anti-Anomen Society.... [ 02-19-2002: Message edited by: Azred ] __________________ Everything may be explained by a conspiracy theory. All conspiracy theories are true. No matter how thinly you slice it, it's still bologna.

02-19-2002, 02:04 PM	#56
Galadria 20th Level Warrior Join Date: November 3, 2001 Location: Texas Age: 55 Posts: 2,830	quote: Originally posted by Azred: [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img] I know what you mean. Like he is in a position to call anyone else a brat. mental note to self: I suppose I am now a member of Galadria's Anti-Anomen Society.... [ 02-19-2002: Message edited by: Azred ] Ha, Ha, you are now a member. __________________ Lady Galadria,Goddess\' Equal of the O.R.T.; [img]\"http://havak.db-forge.com/portraits/bitmaps/wlf180L.bmp\" alt=\" - \" /><br />\"Romance at short notice was her specialty.\" - Saki <br />Founder of the IW Branch of the Anti-Anomen Society

02-19-2002, 02:30 PM	#57
Tancred White Dragon Join Date: April 1, 2001 Location: UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,893	quote: Originally posted by Helspanth: I haven't read the novel,so I don't get your point. Care to elaborate? Um... the novel bears little similarity to the game, basically. if you take away the names and settings, the written story is somewhat divergent from the original. Less of a point, more of a quip. __________________ \"HELP! I\'ve superglued myself to a flaming bowling ball!\"

02-19-2002, 04:27 PM	#58
Absynthe Guest Posts: n/a	Galadria, after being away from the forums for quite a while, I come back to find you working on something I've wanted in the game since BG I! Fantastic! For my part, I fiddled with the romance variables to get my lead character, a half-elf female ranger, hooked up with Jaheira. It worked tolerably well so far ( I haven't finished the game yet) but there were numerous annoying little inconsistencies. It sounds like the expansion you're working on will really give this game the depth of interpersonal intensity I was hoping for. It is sad, yet understandable, that some things were probably unapproachable for the dev team due to marketing concerns. I'm very happy that you're pursuing this, and I hope it all goes well. For what it's worth, although Anomen's character is necessary as a foil, he irritates the hell out of me. Modelled on far too many men that I have met.

02-19-2002, 05:01 PM	#59
Gabriel Emerald Dragon Join Date: March 4, 2001 Location: England Age: 42 Posts: 920	I know this is touched on already and people have desired that everyone has there own ideals but I like to ask how exactly raping Imoen fitted in Jon plans? He did not desire to break here sprite because it would not of severed his cause, a broken child of Bhaal will not feel the blood lust needed to start the powers. As for the knives and such that, even thought it was, in his mind torture as he did it to both Jheria and Minsc, probably Khild and Daynia as well. It was a test to see if the person was a Bhaal child. After like in the Khild experiment he tried to bring her to be fascinated with death. And in the speech of the Dryads they said they WERE his concubines and imply he had stopped using them. And on Spell hold he just ripped her soul from her body by magic, the test on the inmates were probably to see if the instability was due to a Bhall essence. As for the whole incest bit the Parent was a god and half the time their not even the same speices.

02-19-2002, 05:41 PM	#60
Mortis Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: February 19, 2002 Location: Nord Iron Posts: 21	Alright peeps, new kid in this forum just discovered the site. Im intrigued by this Imoen romance thing, but after reading through the post im not sure what ur all on about and how to get it to work. Forgive me if im soundin stupid but cud someone explain to me the basics of how this works. Soz for soundin a fool

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