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03-21-2001, 09:18 AM

Don't worry I have a stunt double for thinking

Thanks, I thought the name would provide a little subtle humour.

I usede to plan my life a lot, found I never ended up where I wanted to I started to "play it by ear", a sort of seat-of-your-pants existance. I still haven't got what I wanted, but then I haven't wasted the time planning!

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Charean · 03-21-2001, 09:23 AM

Well, I had a goal of who I wanted to be, more than anything else... and I have gotten to that point... now to make a new one - with more depth and practice, practice, practice!

I am a psychic, but am working on the discipline to do the kind of work I want to do - something called Scientific Remote Viewing...

Let me know if I have overreached your limit of wanting to know....

I do not take offense. Many look at me with crossed eyes!

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Yorick · 03-21-2001, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Charean:
You may not know Now... but you will. Keep in mind that it has taken all your experiences and growth to get you to this point... the choice is really yours, where you want to be, and Who you want to be. If you don't plan, it happens, but much more slowly.

I think that in life there are so many variables and so much chaos, that the Confucious saying of, "The only certainty in life is that nothing is certain" applies in so many cases. Agreed we shape and choose our course which affects our outcome to a degree, but there are also many unplanned disasters which have nothing to do with our choices - random disasters that could happen anywhere regardless of who or where you are, or that were genetically implanted from birth.

At this point all we can choose and all we have control over is our reaction. (If we can)

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Charean · 03-21-2001, 09:30 AM

Alas, Yorick... we could go deeper on the subject, still -

What if I were to tell you that everything in your life happens because you want it to? I sense your skeptisism - let me give you an example. Let us say you were an executive of a large company. You work many hours and the stress builds. In your conscious mind, there is no acceptable reason to take time off to recharge and relax, so you have a heart attack. You go in the hospital. Now you relax because you have to. But on a deep level, you asked for that heart attack so you Could relax, and have a perfectly acceptable excuse for doing so.

I know there will be many who disagree, and that is okay... at least you have a better understanding of how you think on this issue.

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Goodness knows there is a lot of Dark out there!! - Where are my matches?!?
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03-21-2001, 09:30 AM

I've heard of Remote Viewing, wasn't it supposed to be used by the CIA to spy. (it's WYSIWIS isn't it - What you see is what I see)

I've got a healthy dose of scepticism, but if it works it would be cool...so many ways to abuse your powers...

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Charean · 03-21-2001, 09:42 AM

Yes, it is used by the CIA, but also by a independent group for other things. Some of them get into history - to see it first hand - some see things about the aliens and what the Government covers up - and there are a wide variety of other interests as well.

I am curious about a lot of things. It is a way of seeing that is verifiable (hence the Scientific in the title) that does not intrude on what is happening. A way of time travel that doesn't impact the event. Nifty stuff.

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Yorick · 03-21-2001, 09:51 AM

Charean,
No need to sense my sceptiscism... I was meaning to communicate it

Re. your last post:
Sure, but take the person born with a deformity, leprosy or some other heireditary disease. It is something they are genetically 'given', not something that they've earned.

The danger in that thinking Charean is that, taken to it's logical conclusion it negates charity, negates the need to rectify injustice, poverty, illness, homelessness etc. If everyone creates their environment they have 'deserved it'. You see this in the Hindu caste mentality (which is thankfully changing) where this extends to even things we are born with. Things we are born with are 'carried over' consequences of a past life. Needless to say the caste system the Aryans imposed was very much like an ancient Aparthied that preserved their race at the top, and left no room for the conquered 'untouchables' to change their situation.

I have encountered that school of thought on many occasion, so forgive me if I'm coming down a little strong.

I believe BALANCE is the key. Acknowledging the things you can't change, discovering the things you can and learning the difference - to paraphrase the old saying.

Not all chaos is bad I believe. The "happy accident" is a beautiful thing. Sometimes it's nice to let go and enjoy the ride without seeking to control the uncontrolable.

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Where were Hamlet and Horatio when I needed them?!

A fair dinkum laughing Hyena!

Charean · 03-21-2001, 09:55 AM

Okay, the caste system is something I have never been comfortable with, either.

But burning off Karma from other lifetimes is not necessarily bad. There are people who have physical challenges, but rise above that. In my mind, they rise above their Karma as well. Every challenge is an opportunity for growth, for without growth, there is no point to this existence.

It is the people who bemoan their existence that become trapped within it.

Your volley!

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03-21-2001, 09:59 AM

I was waiting for karma to crop up, I'm just reading Shogun by James Clavell, and there are some interesting bits about how the Englishman stranded in Japan, comes to understand the Japanese, and their belief in karma.

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Charean · 03-21-2001, 10:05 AM

Shogun is wonderful... loved that story.

The Eastern ways are so hard for Westerners to fully grasp, because they were not raised with the culture.

Dharma is another concept that could be brought up... it is creating good Karma (sort of like good points in one's favor) - and usually done by living a life in service to others. Mother Theresa was a terrific example of this. Another way to create Dharma is to do good things that you don't get credit for. It is doing them because it is the right thing to do. I believe Yorick was making reference to this sort of reasoning.

I do the right thing in my life, for to do otherwise would be to hurt myself. For we are all part of the whole.

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Defender for the Light -
Goodness knows there is a lot of Dark out there!! - Where are my matches?!?
Wandering Joke of the Laughing Hyenas
Aquisition master of the Finest of Humours - and the Killer Joke

03-21-2001, 09:18 AM	#51
Sir_Tainly Guest Posts: n/a	Don't worry I have a stunt double for thinking Thanks, I thought the name would provide a little subtle humour. I usede to plan my life a lot, found I never ended up where I wanted to I started to "play it by ear", a sort of seat-of-your-pants existance. I still haven't got what I wanted, but then I haven't wasted the time planning! ------------------ 'Cloudbringer for Spamturny General' - BK -Powered by Tainly Corp Your ad here? Call 112 -221 -123

03-21-2001, 09:23 AM	#52
Charean Hathor Join Date: March 6, 2001 Location: Waxahachie, TX Age: 60 Posts: 2,201	Well, I had a goal of who I wanted to be, more than anything else... and I have gotten to that point... now to make a new one - with more depth and practice, practice, practice! I am a psychic, but am working on the discipline to do the kind of work I want to do - something called Scientific Remote Viewing... Let me know if I have overreached your limit of wanting to know.... I do not take offense. Many look at me with crossed eyes! ------------------ Defender for the Light - Goodness knows there is a lot of Dark out there!! - Where are my matches?!? Wandering Joke of the Laughing Hyenas Aquisition master of the Finest of Humours - and the Killer Joke

03-21-2001, 09:30 AM	#54
Charean Hathor Join Date: March 6, 2001 Location: Waxahachie, TX Age: 60 Posts: 2,201	Alas, Yorick... we could go deeper on the subject, still - What if I were to tell you that everything in your life happens because you want it to? I sense your skeptisism - let me give you an example. Let us say you were an executive of a large company. You work many hours and the stress builds. In your conscious mind, there is no acceptable reason to take time off to recharge and relax, so you have a heart attack. You go in the hospital. Now you relax because you have to. But on a deep level, you asked for that heart attack so you Could relax, and have a perfectly acceptable excuse for doing so. I know there will be many who disagree, and that is okay... at least you have a better understanding of how you think on this issue. ------------------ Defender for the Light - Goodness knows there is a lot of Dark out there!! - Where are my matches?!? Wandering Joke of the Laughing Hyenas Aquisition master of the Finest of Humours - and the Killer Joke

03-21-2001, 09:42 AM	#56
Charean Hathor Join Date: March 6, 2001 Location: Waxahachie, TX Age: 60 Posts: 2,201	Yes, it is used by the CIA, but also by a independent group for other things. Some of them get into history - to see it first hand - some see things about the aliens and what the Government covers up - and there are a wide variety of other interests as well. I am curious about a lot of things. It is a way of seeing that is verifiable (hence the Scientific in the title) that does not intrude on what is happening. A way of time travel that doesn't impact the event. Nifty stuff. ------------------ Defender for the Light - Goodness knows there is a lot of Dark out there!! - Where are my matches?!? Wandering Joke of the Laughing Hyenas Aquisition master of the Finest of Humours - and the Killer Joke

03-21-2001, 09:51 AM	#57
Yorick Very Mad Bird Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Breukelen (over the river from New Amsterdam) Age: 52 Posts: 9,246	Charean, No need to sense my sceptiscism... I was meaning to communicate it Re. your last post: Sure, but take the person born with a deformity, leprosy or some other heireditary disease. It is something they are genetically 'given', not something that they've earned. The danger in that thinking Charean is that, taken to it's logical conclusion it negates charity, negates the need to rectify injustice, poverty, illness, homelessness etc. If everyone creates their environment they have 'deserved it'. You see this in the Hindu caste mentality (which is thankfully changing) where this extends to even things we are born with. Things we are born with are 'carried over' consequences of a past life. Needless to say the caste system the Aryans imposed was very much like an ancient Aparthied that preserved their race at the top, and left no room for the conquered 'untouchables' to change their situation. I have encountered that school of thought on many occasion, so forgive me if I'm coming down a little strong. I believe BALANCE is the key. Acknowledging the things you can't change, discovering the things you can and learning the difference - to paraphrase the old saying. Not all chaos is bad I believe. The "happy accident" is a beautiful thing. Sometimes it's nice to let go and enjoy the ride without seeking to control the uncontrolable. ------------------ Where were Hamlet and Horatio when I needed them?! A fair dinkum laughing Hyena!

03-21-2001, 09:55 AM	#58
Charean Hathor Join Date: March 6, 2001 Location: Waxahachie, TX Age: 60 Posts: 2,201	Okay, the caste system is something I have never been comfortable with, either. But burning off Karma from other lifetimes is not necessarily bad. There are people who have physical challenges, but rise above that. In my mind, they rise above their Karma as well. Every challenge is an opportunity for growth, for without growth, there is no point to this existence. It is the people who bemoan their existence that become trapped within it. Your volley! ------------------ Defender for the Light - Goodness knows there is a lot of Dark out there!! - Where are my matches?!? Wandering Joke of the Laughing Hyenas Aquisition master of the Finest of Humours - and the Killer Joke

03-21-2001, 09:59 AM	#59
Sir_Tainly Guest Posts: n/a	I was waiting for karma to crop up, I'm just reading Shogun by James Clavell, and there are some interesting bits about how the Englishman stranded in Japan, comes to understand the Japanese, and their belief in karma. ------------------ 'Cloudbringer for Spamturny General' - BK -Powered by Tainly Corp Your ad here? Call 112 -221 -123

03-21-2001, 10:05 AM	#60
Charean Hathor Join Date: March 6, 2001 Location: Waxahachie, TX Age: 60 Posts: 2,201	Shogun is wonderful... loved that story. The Eastern ways are so hard for Westerners to fully grasp, because they were not raised with the culture. Dharma is another concept that could be brought up... it is creating good Karma (sort of like good points in one's favor) - and usually done by living a life in service to others. Mother Theresa was a terrific example of this. Another way to create Dharma is to do good things that you don't get credit for. It is doing them because it is the right thing to do. I believe Yorick was making reference to this sort of reasoning. I do the right thing in my life, for to do otherwise would be to hurt myself. For we are all part of the whole. ------------------ Defender for the Light - Goodness knows there is a lot of Dark out there!! - Where are my matches?!? Wandering Joke of the Laughing Hyenas Aquisition master of the Finest of Humours - and the Killer Joke

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