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(Being in the technology business I fully understand how the word productivity is loosely thrown around as a selling point, amongst sales reps. [img]graemlins/blueblink.gif[/img] ) But here is another fact about technological breakthroughs. They cause people to become unemployed as well. You mentioned C.A.D/.C.A.M. for instance, which "revolutionized" manufacturing procedures. Sure jobs were created as a result but jobs were also lost. A firm requiring, 100 trained machinists for instance, now needed maybe ten, who could get the same amount of productivity with the new technology. The Catch 22 of this, for the manufacturer is that the consumer/customer then demanded cheaper and cheaper prices, only possible with higher expenditures in even more sophisticated machinery. We now have machinists in name only, whereas the proper terminology is operator. Whom by the way do not command the same kind of money what-so-ever. With larger and larger mass production capability, the truth is, we need less manufacturers than we needed previously. The trend being that we need to send our kids to college to get a degree for one of those "high paying office jobs". Kind of a misnomer dontcha think? Especially with this new trend proving to have no merit, after investing tens of thousands of dollars into a degree. IMO, the time will soon come, where it makes no sense to do so, when the lifelong compensation of the employee will not bear out the investment needed to be compensated at that level. I suppose my question to you is, since you are very knowledgeable in this field, whats next? Mind you I am not one of those "the glass is half empty" people and hopelessly so, but the trend is here. What is the solution? |
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05-30-2003, 04:34 PM | #52 |
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[img]graemlins/erm.gif[/img] ooookayyyy.....
I was going to respond to the back-and-forth discussion, since I do have some familiarity with taxation, economics, and investments; however, I think I'll just have another glass of blush wine and move on to some other thread. btw...the only way for Social Security to become reasonably funded for the future is to have the proceeds invested in the economy, preferrably in well-diversified portfolios. Or to overhaul the system completely; it doesn't take a genius to figure out which one is more easily accomplished.
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Therefore, rudeness is subjective not objective. From my perspective, Timberloftis made an erroneous subjective judgement on a non-specifically addressed comment and made a direct personal attack, making him doubly wrong. See my point? Or are you going to argue it? Because it *is* subjective. [/QUOTE]Now now children, put the handbags down, eh? Chill out and try to deal with this the way you would deal with it in the real world (assuming you're not in primary school, which I assume neither of you are) with the person in front of you. Surely you wouldn't be foaming at the mouth at them and calling them names just because they disagreed with you...or would you? I hope not. Don't care who started it...it doesn't make either of you look particularly good. I'd like a bit of maturity please. [ 05-31-2003, 01:23 PM: Message edited by: Memnoch ] |
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I'm echoing Memnoch's sentiments, fellas. Knock it off or end up sitting in another sandbox.
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