Evolution II

[Yorick]

Originally posted by MagiK: Every healthy human should be able to sing for example. Mental and psychological inhibitions prevent this. If it's true in one field it can be true in others. Sing yes but not carry a tune, ever watch American Idol?

I just found this...

Every healthy human should be able to sing, carry a tune, whatever you want to call it.

Inhibitions - psychological and physical, cultural and linguistic - all contribute to barriers that prevent free singing. When I taught singing, dealing with those inhibitions was a primary focus.

[Aelia Jusa]

Originally posted by Yorick: Quote: Originally posted by MagiK: Every healthy human should be able to sing for example. Mental and psychological inhibitions prevent this. If it's true in one field it can be true in others. Sing yes but not carry a tune, ever watch American Idol?

I just found this...

Every healthy human should be able to sing, carry a tune, whatever you want to call it.

Inhibitions - psychological and physical, cultural and linguistic - all contribute to barriers that prevent free singing. When I taught singing, dealing with those inhibitions was a primary focus.[/QUOTE]Might some people not be better at hearing differences in pitch? Having a good ear and all that? Or can you learn that?

[LordKathen]

I have to go to work. I will be back tomarow morning to further discuss this.
Yorick, check you PM.
Goodnight all. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Timber Loftis]

Okay, interesting as the "are we all equal" topic is, it is certainly [img]graemlins/offtopic.gif[/img] and detracting from the evolution discussion(s). Puh-lease can we get back on track? I think we've all had our [img]graemlins/twocents.gif[/img] Well, maybe some of us have had about a buck fifty, but you get the point.

[John D Harris]

Originally posted by Yorick: It all depends on your value system and how you define intelligence and sucess. How is a woman brilliant at motherhood, wise in teaching children and creating a world of happiness around her, any less sucessful than Alexander the Great: An obsessive conqueror who as a result of his perpetual aggression died young and childless. Who is the real success?

You're right there! It depends on what system you use to make the evaluations of better ,worse, or equal. Are you, Yorick, equal to me as a screen print artist? I doubt it, I've won several national and interantional awards for my screenprint art. But don't dispear Yorick, I seriously doubt I'm your equal in music. (the good Lord gave me an oversized dumptruck full of desire to sing, but a 1 gal. bucket with a hole in the bottm of ability) Now from what I can tell of what little has be revealed of God's nature (through the Bible) My artwork and your singing don't mean squat. What matters to God is that we both have souls that He wishes to have reside with Him. So in that sense we are equal.

[Yorick]

Originally posted by Aelia Jusa: Quote: Originally posted by Yorick: Quote: Originally posted by MagiK: Every healthy human should be able to sing for example. Mental and psychological inhibitions prevent this. If it's true in one field it can be true in others. Sing yes but not carry a tune, ever watch American Idol?

I just found this...

Every healthy human should be able to sing, carry a tune, whatever you want to call it.

Inhibitions - psychological and physical, cultural and linguistic - all contribute to barriers that prevent free singing. When I taught singing, dealing with those inhibitions was a primary focus.[/QUOTE]Might some people not be better at hearing differences in pitch? Having a good ear and all that? Or can you learn that?[/QUOTE]Listening is a skill.

My hearing is streets better than it was eight years ago, despite getting damage to my hardware. Hearing is the interpretation of soundwaves. It most assuredly get's better, and there are excercises that help train someones ear.

It's no accident that brilliant violinists usually all have perfect pitch. It's an instument that in mastering, one develops very detailed pitch judgement, and associated it with the notes on the page.

Of course some have greater aptitudes for aspects of music. But lack of an aptitude does not equate impossibility. Instead, a person can turn limitation into genius.

Django Reinhardt only had two of his left hand fingers working (and his thumb. THe ring and pinky were malformed. Unusable. Yet he's one of the worlds best ever guitarists. A player of incredible virtuosity. Hendricks didn't let his lefthandedness prevent him from playing a righthanded guitar. He just flipped it upside down.

People like the Edge had lousy left hand mobility and so focussed on rythm and parts, melodies and colours. He's one of the most influencial soundsmiths of his generation. David Gilmore is another guitar hero with limitations. "My fingers just won't move fast" he has said.

It's a matter of taking what you've been given, working to your strengths and finding a niche. If you want to. It all depends on your aims, desires, expectations and values as to whether your a success or not.

[John D Harris]

Originally posted by Timber Loftis: Okay, interesting as the "are we all equal" topic is, it is certainly [img]graemlins/offtopic.gif[/img] and detracting from the evolution discussion(s). Puh-lease can we get back on track? I think we've all had our [img]graemlins/twocents.gif[/img] Well, maybe some of us have had about a buck fifty, but you get the point.

It's an Evolving conversation

[Yorick]

Originally posted by John D Harris: Quote: Originally posted by Timber Loftis: Okay, interesting as the "are we all equal" topic is, it is certainly [img]graemlins/offtopic.gif[/img] and detracting from the evolution discussion(s). Puh-lease can we get back on track? I think we've all had our [img]graemlins/twocents.gif[/img] Well, maybe some of us have had about a buck fifty, but you get the point.

It's an Evolving conversation [/QUOTE]The fittest topic will survive! The one that adapts best to this new environment!

[John D Harris]

Originally posted by Yorick: Quote: Originally posted by John D Harris: Quote: Originally posted by Timber Loftis: Okay, interesting as the "are we all equal" topic is, it is certainly [img]graemlins/offtopic.gif[/img] and detracting from the evolution discussion(s). Puh-lease can we get back on track? I think we've all had our [img]graemlins/twocents.gif[/img] Well, maybe some of us have had about a buck fifty, but you get the point.

It's an Evolving conversation [/QUOTE]The fittest topic will survive! The one that adapts best to this new environment! [/QUOTE]AMEN! Preach it Brother

[Timber Loftis]

Okay, fine everybody. Very funny ha ha.

So, on that note, Yorick:
I'm tone deaf. I figured out after 7 years of piano lessons I would never play by ear. Because I could not replicate pitch I was left to sheet-reading only. That's no fun, and less than half a musician IMHO. So, I don't think I could have overcome my tone-deafness by simply willing myself to do it. And, I must point out I'm not what you would call weak-willed.