Best Rapper?

[Kaltia]

Get the DVD of "8 mile" and watch the special thingymajiggidy...bleh, I've forgotten the name...uh...the thing with the native rappers who were asked by the Director to challenge Eiminem. It's fascinating, and would be more so if I could remember wtf it was called.

[Rimjaw]

Originally posted by Kaltia: Get the DVD of "8 mile" and watch the special thingymajiggidy...bleh, I've forgotten the name...uh...the thing with the native rappers who were asked by the Director to challenge Eiminem. It's fascinating, and would be more so if I could remember wtf it was called.

I found the Superman vid more fascinating. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[Timber Loftis]

Originally posted by Kaltia: Get the DVD of "8 mile" and watch the special thingymajiggidy...bleh, I've forgotten the name...uh...the thing with the native rappers who were asked by the Director to challenge Eiminem. It's fascinating, and would be more so if I could remember wtf it was called.

Yeah, the Rap Battles were awesome. Showed exactly how Em stands head and shoulders above the others. It's funny, the director instructed him to save his voice and just "mimic" for his parts, since they were just shooting the scenes for music-backed scenes in the movie. Em just couldn't help but showing off for the local crowd. It is absolutely amazing to even conceive of being able to do that. Wiggity Wack.

[Attalus]

Originally posted by Vaskez: quote: Originally posted by Kaltia: Even if you don't like rap, you have to admire the lyrical dexterity of some of the rappers.

See there's an intelligent comment. The young lady is putting supposedly mature and intelligent posters to shame *cough* Attalus *cough* [/QUOTE]I don't see why verbal dexterity should count anything at all in a so-called "musical" genre. This is not a debating society. So, no, I do not admire it, especially since most of the time I can't understand it, and, on the infrequent times that I do, I wish I didn't. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[Timber Loftis]

Originally posted by Attalus: I don't see why verbal dexterity should count anything at all in a so-called "musical" genre. This is not a debating society. So, no, I do not admire it, especially since most of the time I can't understand it, and, on the infrequent times that I do, I wish I didn't. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I agree with Steven Tyler, who when asked about allowing Eminem rights to his music took time to say that "the spoken language is a beautiful thing that rap music celebrates." Poetry and music go hand in hand, and rap is no different.

Of course, I think lots of rappers have great tracks laid down to make their tunes to. The Beaties' tracks rock, and the music is good without their words or with.

Moreover, I look at rap like I do grunge. Both are very narrow styles that have a limited range in and of themselves. However, both contributed stylistic changes to the wider array of songs. Many songs have raps in the middle or intersperced, going all the way back to old Bobby Brown songs and such. A lot of music has also been infused with a "grungish" dinginess even though they aren't really grunge songs.

In this way, these narrow stylistic movements actually have made their contribution to music's Great Debate.

Oh, and back on topic:

Can I vote old Red Hot Chili Peppers as "rappers?" ?? [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img]

[pritchke]

Originally posted by Attalus: "Good" and "rapper" do not belong in the same sentence. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I was thinking the same thing.

OK, John Cena because he wrestles for the WWE, I find his raps funny and we don't have to be worried about it being turned into an album or having to listen to it on the radio.

[AzRaeL StoRmBlaDe]

Run DMC was probably the most influencial.
Outkast is probably the best.
No one writes funkier shiznit than they do.
All props to Biggie and Tupac though, both were extremely talented, as is Eminem, The whole NWA crew (together and individually), snoop, Nas, Jay-Z has to get some credit even though I'm not a big fan, Xhibit is alright and KRS one is cool by me. Ludicris' last album was pretty good. Nellie's first album was awesome but he's sold out big time since then, St. Lunatics' first album was sweet too, but they will probably suck now because Nellie sucks now.
Thats all I got. I'm out.

[ 06-02-2003, 05:17 PM: Message edited by: AzRaeL StoRmBlaDe ]

[WillowIX]

Originally posted by Vaskez: Didn't know we had so many imbeciles on here i.e. people who dislike rap

Thank you. I knew there was a reason I can't stand rap. Thanks for explaing it to me. [img]tongue.gif[/img] And it is hard for me to listen to the lyrics when I don't listen to rap. If I want to hear chittering ( [img]tongue.gif[/img] ) I can just as well listen to Jackie or my little sis. [img]graemlins/blueblink.gif[/img]

[wellard]

a rap thread with 2 pages and still no tribute to the original and best rapper. A rapper so famous that even though he has not performed for years he his still known, loved, and reveared throughout the world. I am even willing to bet that Attalus has enjoyed his performances. I'll give you a few more hours to put the record straight, or you "rap" fans will have to hang your head in shame [img]tongue.gif[/img]

And woe betide anyone that meets this man, as I have had the privlige too, and not show him respect. He had quite a way of *beating* people into submission

got the answer yet?

[johnny]

Originally posted by wellard: a rap thread with 2 pages and still no tribute to the original and best rapper. A rapper so famous that even though he has not performed for years he his still known, loved, and reveared throughout the world. I am even willing to bet that Attalus has enjoyed his performances. I'll give you a few more hours to put the record straight, or you "rap" fans will have to hang your head in shame [img]tongue.gif[/img] And woe betide anyone that meets this man, as I have had the privlige too, and not show him respect. He had quite a way of *beating* people into submission got the answer yet?

Andre Hazes ?