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Anyway Once again these were just few people, and if some people who work for the goverment is rude to them, doesnt mean the goverment is rude to those people, it just means that they have hired the wrong people. Rest assured that there are people from the US goverment, who treat immigrants badly You only talked to people who didnt make it in Europe. I give you a different prespective, that of people who did make it in Europe. I know loads of immigrants in Holland who are treated quite well by the Dutch Goverment
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01-16-2003, 11:34 AM | #42 |
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I agree with MagiK (I think - he's posted a lot here) and the others, Including George Washington, who have said America should support its own interests in international relations. To do otherwise would be failing its people. This has its good and bad points, I realize (believe me, I certainly sided with the UK over the beef-hormone issue that the US/Monsanto rammed down the world's gullet). But, ultimately the question of where we should use "police power," "military might," or plain old dollars should be selfish.
This rule applies when that selfishness is economic or emotionally driven. Like Afghanistan - recent actions/war there allowed the US Government to: placate its citizens' outcries for a revenge and manhunt; try to push the region toward a government that the US and its citizens find more palettable; satisfy some small portion of women's rights groups' issues; and set the foundation for what may become a friendly fertile marketplace to sell our products like Coca-Cola and Mickey Mouse. Should we be a police power and fix problems just 'cause it's the right thing to do? Yes, but only if it's what our people want. Again, the government is BY and FOR the people - internationally as well as nationally. [ 01-16-2003, 11:35 AM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ] |
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How the heck did this become a discussion of immigrant treatment by different nations?
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[quote]Originally posted by homer:
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01-16-2003, 11:52 AM | #47 | |
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"They don't know when to stop and they might find themselves falling over the edge of a cliff, down the precipice into war – even if that is not their intention," Wendy Sherman, former special advisor to president Clinton and the secretary of state on North Korean policy. In 1993, after it first agreed to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty (NPT) -- North Korea threatened to pull out and forced weapons inspectors to leave. The U.S. it seemed was poised for war. {excerpt from CNN article} So Clinton was "nice" to North Korea instead of being "mean", but North Korea still rattled their nuclear sabres and threatened to withdraw from the treaty. You want to blame all the tension with North Korea on GWB, go ahead. History - even very recent history - refutes that claim.
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01-16-2003, 11:56 AM | #48 |
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One small point Magic
The nuclear reactors that the Clinton Administration agreed to help North Korea build were two light-water reactors. These do not produce plutonium as a 'waste'-product - Unlike the reactor that NK recently reactivated, which the two former was supposed to replace.
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Agreed, Homer. The thread was a "should" not a "does," but your point is well-taken.
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