Acid, poison or fire damaging katanas

[Xen]

Originally posted by TaSSaDaR: Sorry WhiteLancer for me being an idiot and offending you, my headache is doing wonders... I greatly appreciate all the help you bring, guys, and really enjoy discussing some non-trivial things on this very board. Thats also the reason why I prefer to find the solution in a live thread rather than by search function - together we may come up with a totally new and great solution. Never mind the joy of the process [img]smile.gif[/img] Will have to stick to that hammer... And I have an answer to my own question about Acid Katana - anybody have tactics? Kuroisan I mentioned! His katana is rumored to deal acid damage...

I have The Tactics Mod.

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Sanchuudoku +4: Acidic Katana
This green blade was forged by a Kara-Turan Wu Jen as a gift for his paranoid overlord; its name means "Acidic Poisoning". The sword was enchanted using the fresh blood of a Black Dragon and the hilt guard is decorated with Wolfwere bone fragments. The blade heals its user's wounds at an alarming rate and powerful acid seem to fly from it whenever an attack is made on the user.

STATISTICS:

Equipped Abilities: Regeneration (1 hit point per second), Immunity to Acid, anyone attacking or casting spells on the wielder is subject to an Acidic Backlash.
Combat Ability: Each hit lowers the target's acid resistance by 25% for 18 seconds and inflicts 2d4 acid damage.
THACO: +4 bonus
Damage: 1D10 +4
Damage type: slashing
Weight: 8
Speed Factor: 0
Proficiency Type: Katana
Type: 1-handed
Unusable By: Cleric, Druid, Mage

[Raistlin Majere]

Sanchuudoku = WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY overpowered, but if your only going to use it on trolls, then no problem(not like its a problem in the first place...). The fight for it is very hard though, so i guess that justifies it a bit.

[White Lancer]

Not offended TaSSaDaR, just trying to help. [img]smile.gif[/img] I thought the blunt katana was a good idea, however, it might not appeal to everyone (and you obviously didn't like it [img]tongue.gif[/img] ).

That's the first time i have seen the stats on that acid katana... i'll agree with Raistlin Majere that is one over-powered sword.

[SixOfSpades]

Clay Golems can actually be killed with certain sharp weapons, provided they do Elemental damage. It takes a long time (since the Elemental damage is the only damage that gets through), but it CAN be done. [In case you're wondering, yes, this was considered for use in the GBPitBSoATQ.]

The Corthala Family Blade (Bleeding damage) and Frostreaver (Cold and Acid, although only 1 of those types will actually hurt the Clayboys, and I'm not sure which) will work. The Dragon's Breath halberd, on the other hand, will NOT work, as it allows for the victim's Magic Resistance. I haven't tested Stonefire.

As for a Katana that deals Blunt damage, why can't you hit with the FLAT side of the blade? Granted, a Katana is almost the very worst sort of weapon to do this with, but it could be done.

[Nerull]

Actually, use a magical quarterstaff against the golems. While it is not a katana, it is still an commonly used eastern weapon. Clubs can also be used. Helps with the clay golems, but doesn't solve the troll problem. Not much to be done with the trolls, except for one dagger that I know of that does fire damage. That is with unmodded game; otherwise, the superweapon listed above handles trolls and pretty much anything else in the game (does acid damage and lowers acid resistance? ouch).

[Dundee Slaytern]

Clay Golems are vulnerable to fire damage. The problems arises that most elemental damage on weapons check for Magic Resistance.

Ring of the Ram works.

You can try the following weapons. I have not tested them, so they might not work.

Flame Tongue
Long Sword of Flame
Potion of Explosions
Potion of Firebreath
Oil of Fiery Burning
Ring of Energy
Sanchu( need the Acid Kensai mod)

There should be more, but this is what I can think of the top of my head at the moment.

[weimer]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TaSSaDaR:
I don't knwo how to say it in english, but we have a veery good ideom in Russian. The meaning is: your idea about blunt katana is ridiculous to the point of absurd. /QUOTE]

The shinai and bokken, vaguely-katana-like "swords" made of wood that are used in the art of kendo, are excellent examples of blunt katanas. If you've never seen one, http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/9431/shinai.htm has a half-decent photo that compares them to a standard katana.

Beyond that, Nobuhiro Watsuki is probably turning over in his grave. Well, he would be if he weren't born in 1970. His character Himura "Hitokiri Battousai" Kenshin made famous the notion of a "sakabatou" or reversed-blade katana. With the edge on the wrong side of the blade, standard attacks deal bludgeoning damage and Kenshin can beat people up without risking his conscience at the thought of slicing them to ribbons. I believe the English dub of this show is called "Samurai X". If you have some spare time, that show (but perhaps not the dub) is independently worthy: about half of the television episodes (those drawn from the manga, say) when taken as a unit are on par with Hayao Miyazaki's work (e.g., "Princess Mononoke" and "Spirited Away").

While I'm sure your idiom comes in handy in many cases, in my opinion this (the concept of a blunt katana) is not one of them.

[Leslie]

How about hitting Clay Golems with your fists - no weapon equipped ?
I think they are considered blunt weapons. Correct ?

[Dundee Slaytern]

Originally posted by Leslie: How about hitting Clay Golems with your fists - no weapon equipped ? I think they are considered blunt weapons. Correct ?

A very original idea, and yes, your fists are considered blunt weapons. However, there are two problems.

1) Since you are not a Monk, your fists are considered non-enchanted weapons

2) Excluding the Monk, fists are considered non-lethal weapons and can only knock targets unconsicious, not kill them. Not to say that it cannot be fun though... after all, my Sorcerer is in the habit of knocking out Dragons with his fists before stabbing them to death with his apprentices' dagger.

[Alson]

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern: ... 2) Excluding the Monk, fists are considered non-lethal weapons and can only knock targets unconsicious, not kill them.

?! This strikes me odd, for three reasons: First, I never heard this before. Second, I've heard reports about non-Monks killing [ ToB Golem Type ] with their bare fists. Third, it sounds very not Infinity-Engine-Like. I can't see how such a thing can be implemented. Are you sure about this?