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Old 09-18-2008, 09:40 AM   #31
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I'm glad to hear that you figured it out.

You are correct that only humans can change class. It sounds like you've found another bug. You can follow the link in my signature to create a bug report. If you do, can you please attach your error file? It really helps track down where the problem is occurring.
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Old 09-18-2008, 09:51 AM   #32
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Now that I know for sure it is not intended, I will firstly have a second look at it.
To be more precise: In a training hall, the option "human change class" did not occur for non human PCs, however, when I chose this option with a human, I could switch to other characters using the Backspace key (I assume dwarvish, cyborg in my scenario ) and change their classes as well.
The problem is, that I am sometimes confused which race is which since I exchanged humans, elves, dwarves etc with martens, cyborgs and dragons. I would really be glad if someone who has not changed classes and races could look at it and try to reproduce this mistake. Furthermore, I hereby admit that I still use version 9.130.

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Old 09-18-2008, 10:03 AM   #33
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.913! For shame! Just kidding.

If I get time this weekend (and remember to do it) I will give this a try as well.
I've got to say that I don't think I've tried using the backspace key to move back to a previous screen...
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Old 09-18-2008, 10:25 AM   #34
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No, misunderstanding! Inside the game, you can switch between the PCs in your party either using the arrowkeys or the backspace key, depending on the event. If you chose "human class change" in the training hall, you still see the names of all your party members and can switch between them. I assume you can do it by mouse or with the keyboard... Anyway, there you can switch to PCs even if they didn't have the "human class change" option before...
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Old 09-18-2008, 11:35 AM   #35
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I'll have to try out the backspace so I can add that to the documentation.

I knew you could still choose different characters after you had selected to train, for example, but I don't think I've tried dual-classing a character in DC. I know I used to Secret of the silver Blades - take a human ranger to 9th level (so they could cast magic user spells) then switch to a magic user, that way you could wear armor and still cast spells.
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Old 09-18-2008, 05:19 PM   #36
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I just tested a bit in DC's defaul settings, and it doesn't seem dual-classed characters ever get their original class abilities back. The menu also acts a bit oddly so after you choose your dual-class, you can choose another dual-class immediately after, and you can bounce back and forth between the same classes.
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Old 09-18-2008, 05:26 PM   #37
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This definitely sounds like we've got another bug. If someone wants to report it to SourceForge, that would be great, otherwise when i get time this weekend, I can try it out and submit a bug report.
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Old 09-19-2008, 06:51 AM   #38
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Would you be offended if I hope that you try it out?
Perhaps I could repay the debt with an ankylosaur-icon...
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Old 09-19-2008, 06:53 AM   #39
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And again I have to ask about the rules... When leveling up, all (N)PCs get a HP bonus, right? Are there differences between the races? Is it possible that dwarves gain generally less HPs than humans?
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Old 09-19-2008, 07:30 AM   #40
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Dwarves should get more than humans, as they have a CON +1 bonus (maximum of CON 19, but DC currently caps this at 18).

CON 15 gives +1 hp/level
CON 16 gives +2 hp/level
CON 17 gives +3 hp/level if a fighter, ranger, or paladin
CON 18 gives +4 hp/level if a fighter, ranger, or paladin
CON 19 gives +5 hp/level if a fighter, ranger, or paladin

Thus, a supremely healthy dwarven fighter could possibly get 15 hp/level (a supremently healthy human fighter is limited to 14).
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