Liquor store sells cups of ice in it's drive thru - Page 4

Lord Michael · 05-27-2007, 09:52 PM

I'm more "riled up" about your spelling prowess.
Fact is, cups of ice don't kill people, IDIOTS kill people.

Firestormalpha · 05-27-2007, 10:42 PM

I'm thinking, just maybe LM could use a cup of ice right now? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Lord Michael · 05-27-2007, 10:54 PM

Perhaps. Or a sedative.

Maybe a lobotomy, so I can think like everyone else.

Firestormalpha · 05-27-2007, 11:05 PM

No need to think like everyone else. But neither is there a need to so heated about a point one disagrees on.

Just thought I'd add, I have issues with dealing with opposing opinions myself. Sometimes I'm nice enough to walk away cool off and agree to disagree. Othertimes, I'm not so lucky.

[ 05-27-2007, 11:07 PM: Message edited by: Firestormalpha ]

Illumina Drathiran'ar · 05-28-2007, 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lord Michael:
I'm more "riled up" about your spelling prowess.
Fact is, cups of ice don't kill people, IDIOTS kill people.

Now, the REALLY amazing thing was that I was drinking a glass of milk while this was posted.

Balintherlas · 05-28-2007, 05:32 AM

Apalogies Mye Lord, forgive a lowely commmener for his inadequate marks in spelling.

Hivetyrant · 05-28-2007, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Balintherlas:
Apalogies Mye Lord, forgive a lowely commmener for his inadequate marks in spelling.

Jeeeeeeeez Balintherlas! How could you be so inconsiderate [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Iron Greasel · 05-28-2007, 06:07 AM

Lord Michael: Defining humanity with intelligence has it's own problems. If stupid people are not really people, is it OK to kill or subjugate them? As an example, If you have a huge continent full of people who are too stupid to even have discovered gunpowder and masonry, is it ethically right to abduct them and cart them over the sea to work as slaves at a cotton plantation? As another example, very small children are not intelligent, and if deprived of education, will stay that way. Should we farm lesser people for purposes of, say, warfare or labor? I think no. Humans are still humans.

Just trying to deliberately deviate this thread farther and farther away from the original topic.

Balintherlas · 05-28-2007, 12:03 PM

Uhh, YAR! What he said

Lord Michael · 05-28-2007, 04:14 PM

Point Taken, Iron Greasel. I was not attempting thread drift. I merely wanted to convey that, IMHO, it is not the insignificant things (like cups of ice for sale at liquor stores), but the mind of the human that is at fault here. Firstly, it probably is a dumb thing to do, selling cups of ice at a liquor store. It does possibly (to a knucklehead) imply that, "hey, I better make good use of this ice....time for a drink!" That response however, is reactionary (cup of ice + liquor = time for a drink). The customer has a decision to make... hence the human mind comes into play. Anyone who automatically makes a drink in the car, fires up the engine, and drives; lacks a degree of quality decision-making skills and common sense. However, the store selling the ice bears absolutely NO culpability for selling ice (IMO). That same knucklehead could EASILY purchase his/her bottle, drive next door or around the corner to a convenient store, and purchase a cup of ice. Or they could just bring a cup of ice from home. My point is, you can't stop idiocy. (Unless you round 'em up and dig a deeeep hole).
Secondly, a reaction of "Oh My God I can't BELIEVE they can do that!", or "They CAN"T do THAT!" is equally reactionary and idiotic. Attempting to save an idiot from making a bad decision (or attempting to create the illusion that you may be saving someone's child so you can feel better about yourself), is delusionary and incompetent. It is a downward-spiraling perpetuation of maternal/paternal insecurity, that will inevitably lead to, "Holy Shite!, Gasoline is flammable (they might burn little Johnny), "doors have sharp corners!" (little Johnny might bump his head!", and eventually, "Trees can fall during strorms!", (We're all gonna DIE!!!). Pointless.

The key is, teach your children well. Teach them right from wrong, and DISCIPLINE the buggers when they do wrong, because they definitely will. An intelligent human has the sense to know, law or no law, that driving while you are not acutely aware of your surroundings and able to react quickly, is just stupid and can kill you or someone else. They also have the sense to know that it is not the gasoline itself that burns you, (You can pour it all over you if you want...oh no...CANCER!), it is the idiot who applies flame and throws it at you.
It's the DECISION that makes the difference...
Just my .02 cents.

05-27-2007, 09:52 PM	#31
Lord Michael Elminster Join Date: May 17, 2005 Location: Raleigh, NC, USA Age: 55 Posts: 439	I'm more "riled up" about your spelling prowess. Fact is, cups of ice don't kill people, IDIOTS kill people. __________________ "Faster we run... and we die young.." Alice In Chains "Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees"

05-27-2007, 10:42 PM	#32
Firestormalpha Knight of the Rose Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Coral Springs, Fl USA Age: 41 Posts: 4,454	I'm thinking, just maybe LM could use a cup of ice right now? [img]tongue.gif[/img] __________________ "When you start with a presupposition, it's hard to arrive at any other conclusion." "We are never to judge a philosophy by its abuse." - Augustine "If you're wondering if God has a sense of humor, consider the platypus." http://www.greaterthings.cbglades.com

05-27-2007, 10:54 PM	#33
Lord Michael Elminster Join Date: May 17, 2005 Location: Raleigh, NC, USA Age: 55 Posts: 439	Perhaps. Or a sedative. Maybe a lobotomy, so I can think like everyone else. __________________ "Faster we run... and we die young.." Alice In Chains "Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees"

05-27-2007, 11:05 PM	#34
Firestormalpha Knight of the Rose Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Coral Springs, Fl USA Age: 41 Posts: 4,454	No need to think like everyone else. But neither is there a need to so heated about a point one disagrees on. Just thought I'd add, I have issues with dealing with opposing opinions myself. Sometimes I'm nice enough to walk away cool off and agree to disagree. Othertimes, I'm not so lucky. [ 05-27-2007, 11:07 PM: Message edited by: Firestormalpha ] __________________ "When you start with a presupposition, it's hard to arrive at any other conclusion." "We are never to judge a philosophy by its abuse." - Augustine "If you're wondering if God has a sense of humor, consider the platypus." http://www.greaterthings.cbglades.com

05-28-2007, 05:32 AM	#36
Balintherlas Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 22, 2003 Location: Ohio, Go Tribe Age: 39 Posts: 1,131	Apalogies Mye Lord, forgive a lowely commmener for his inadequate marks in spelling. __________________ Veni, Vidi, Vici

05-28-2007, 06:07 AM	#38
Iron Greasel Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 13, 2004 Location: Finland Age: 36 Posts: 1,701	Lord Michael: Defining humanity with intelligence has it's own problems. If stupid people are not really people, is it OK to kill or subjugate them? As an example, If you have a huge continent full of people who are too stupid to even have discovered gunpowder and masonry, is it ethically right to abduct them and cart them over the sea to work as slaves at a cotton plantation? As another example, very small children are not intelligent, and if deprived of education, will stay that way. Should we farm lesser people for purposes of, say, warfare or labor? I think no. Humans are still humans. Just trying to deliberately deviate this thread farther and farther away from the original topic. __________________

05-28-2007, 12:03 PM	#39
Balintherlas Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 22, 2003 Location: Ohio, Go Tribe Age: 39 Posts: 1,131	Uhh, YAR! What he said __________________ Veni, Vidi, Vici

05-28-2007, 04:14 PM	#40
Lord Michael Elminster Join Date: May 17, 2005 Location: Raleigh, NC, USA Age: 55 Posts: 439	Point Taken, Iron Greasel. I was not attempting thread drift. I merely wanted to convey that, IMHO, it is not the insignificant things (like cups of ice for sale at liquor stores), but the mind of the human that is at fault here. Firstly, it probably is a dumb thing to do, selling cups of ice at a liquor store. It does possibly (to a knucklehead) imply that, "hey, I better make good use of this ice....time for a drink!" That response however, is reactionary (cup of ice + liquor = time for a drink). The customer has a decision to make... hence the human mind comes into play. Anyone who automatically makes a drink in the car, fires up the engine, and drives; lacks a degree of quality decision-making skills and common sense. However, the store selling the ice bears absolutely NO culpability for selling ice (IMO). That same knucklehead could EASILY purchase his/her bottle, drive next door or around the corner to a convenient store, and purchase a cup of ice. Or they could just bring a cup of ice from home. My point is, you can't stop idiocy. (Unless you round 'em up and dig a deeeep hole). Secondly, a reaction of "Oh My God I can't BELIEVE they can do that!", or "They CAN"T do THAT!" is equally reactionary and idiotic. Attempting to save an idiot from making a bad decision (or attempting to create the illusion that you may be saving someone's child so you can feel better about yourself), is delusionary and incompetent. It is a downward-spiraling perpetuation of maternal/paternal insecurity, that will inevitably lead to, "Holy Shite!, Gasoline is flammable (they might burn little Johnny), "doors have sharp corners!" (little Johnny might bump his head!", and eventually, "Trees can fall during strorms!", (We're all gonna DIE!!!). Pointless. The key is, teach your children well. Teach them right from wrong, and DISCIPLINE the buggers when they do wrong, because they definitely will. An intelligent human has the sense to know, law or no law, that driving while you are not acutely aware of your surroundings and able to react quickly, is just stupid and can kill you or someone else. They also have the sense to know that it is not the gasoline itself that burns you, (You can pour it all over you if you want...oh no...CANCER!), it is the idiot who applies flame and throws it at you. It's the DECISION that makes the difference... Just my .02 cents. __________________ "Faster we run... and we die young.." Alice In Chains "Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees"

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