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Old 04-16-2003, 08:33 AM   #31
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Hmmm, I thought we attacked Iraq to help proliferate terrorist ideaology with American militarism, destabilize the middle east with political, social, and humanitarian unrest smack dab in the middle of it, breed mistrust with our allies and world neighbors by ignoring international protocal and general name-calling, and to force our ideals of democracy on another land in another region with another culture.

oh yeah, we were also trying to wreck our already weak economy by spending an exhorbinate amount of money overseas while the coffers at home grow empty. Don't want to forget that.

No, in reality these were reasons not to attack Iraq, I'm just being sarcastic.
Please..I have asked in another thread...how can our economy be declared weak? There are litterally thousands of people lining up day after day, week after week in order to buy $300,000+ homes here in the DC/MD/VA area......how the heck are these people getting that kind of cash in a truely weak economy? Compared to the 1970's this is a boom.
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Old 04-16-2003, 11:12 AM   #32
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Please..I have asked in another thread...how can our economy be declared weak?
5%+ Unemployment. DJIA at 8000.
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Old 04-16-2003, 01:59 PM   #33
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Please..I have asked in another thread...how can our economy be declared weak?
5%+ Unemployment. DJIA at 8000.[/QUOTE]I am not sure you can use the DJIA as a reference anymore...those idiots are basicly day trading the entire index on day to day issues in the middle east. If we lost 1 soldier it plumeted, if we didn't loose anyone it climbed....

I sdtill say any time you have to wait 3 months to get on a list to purchase a home for 1/3 of a Million dollars or more, due to the sheer number of people competing to get the houses (and there is no shortage of them being built) the economy can't be all that bad.....I also think a lot of the $$$ that woulld normally go to the DJIA may be going into realestate....
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Old 04-16-2003, 09:11 PM   #34
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Hmmm, I thought we attacked Iraq to help proliferate terrorist ideaology with American militarism, destabilize the middle east with political, social, and humanitarian unrest smack dab in the middle of it, breed mistrust with our allies and world neighbors by ignoring international protocal and general name-calling, and to force our ideals of democracy on another land in another region with another culture.

oh yeah, we were also trying to wreck our already weak economy by spending an exhorbinate amount of money overseas while the coffers at home grow empty. Don't want to forget that.

No, in reality these were reasons not to attack Iraq, I'm just being sarcastic.
Please..I have asked in another thread...how can our economy be declared weak? There are litterally thousands of people lining up day after day, week after week in order to buy $300,000+ homes here in the DC/MD/VA area......how the heck are these people getting that kind of cash in a truely weak economy? Compared to the 1970's this is a boom. [/QUOTE]They work for the goverment or a firm with a goverment contract?

I do use the term "weak" loosely, but you must of missed the news of many states and cities in fiscal crisis. Boston, New York and Philly will lay-off needed police and firefighters this year and those are just cities that I know of. Also I work in retail. Retail is down, way down in some sectors. None of the merchants in my mall are meeting sales budgets and lay-offs and store closings are growing more common. Some companies are doing well though, Walmart and Best Buy are unstoppable in growing it seems. I'll see if I can find any net articles on the economy to proliferate this discussion but I dont have time now.
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Old 04-16-2003, 09:27 PM   #35
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Please..I have asked in another thread...how can our economy be declared weak?
5%+ Unemployment. DJIA at 8000.[/QUOTE]TL, I can remember when 5% unemployment was considered full employment, "Hale" if Jimmy Carter had 8.5% unemployment, 10% interest rate, 8% inflation, and the DJIA at 2000 he would have been re-elected. [img]graemlins/moon.gif[/img]

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Old 04-17-2003, 01:04 AM   #36
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Economic theories show that there tends to be a "natural" unemployment rate; research tends to place this rate between 6 and 7 percent. Strangely enough, there is no direct relationship between unemployment and inflation, because unemployment differs from the natural rate (which is cyclic in nature) only due to some unexpected surprise.
Also, stock market averages, in and of themselves, have no effect upon the economy, except when people pay too much attention to them. They do tend to be leading indicators, but a drop in the averages does not necessarily mean that the economy is "weak". Only day-traders and the general public worry about the averages...no offense to anyone intended, of course.
Governmental fiscal policy has very little effect on the general health of the economy, but monetary policy--as controlled by the Federal Reserve via interest rates--does. In short, it would not be Bush who can help fix the economy, but Greenspan.

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