J.M LePen - Page 4

Epona · 05-05-2002, 06:04 AM

Barry: You're absolutely right of course! The combined left vote was as big as the far-right vote. It's polarization, not a swing to the right.

Talthy: In the Hackney council elections the Socialist Alliance (mostly Trots) got over 20% of the vote in several wards, and kept their deposit in every single seat where they had candidates - and the BNP (nazis) won 3 seats in Burnley - so we have the same polarization taking place in England.

Lanthir · 05-05-2002, 06:23 AM

Ug you all have Le Pen we have Buchann here. Thank God he did not get elected Buchann that is. It was bad enough a few years ago when a Grand Wizard of the KKK got elected in Lousiana and just barely lost for Governor.

Talthyr Malkaviel · 05-05-2002, 11:25 AM

Yeah I know epona, it's ridiculous... just because Blair's inadequate loads of people are turning to the BNP, especially in the more troubled areas.

Horatio · 05-05-2002, 02:52 PM

Indeed, it'll be a sad day for the world if the BNP become the gov. in England. For those of you who don't know, the BNP is a "Send em back where they came from" party. While they have strong views on crime, they are extremely racist. The BNP is made up of criminals, and one was even photographed wearing a Nazi uniform.

Barry the Sprout · 05-05-2002, 05:17 PM

What always amuses me about the BNP is that they favour a tough policy on crime, yet nearly all of the members have convictions for violence. They appear to be tough on the kind of crime committed by people the wrong colour, thats for certain. But it would just be stupid to say they were against a good old punch up...

Melusine · 05-05-2002, 05:32 PM

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Originally posted by Barry the Sprout:
What always amuses me about the BNP is that they favour a tough policy on crime, yet nearly all of the members have convictions for violence. They appear to be tough on the kind of crime committed by people the wrong colour, thats for certain. But it would just be stupid to say they were against a good old punch up...

Actually that makes them less scary to me... if their reputation's impeccable they are much harder to combat, and people will trust them sooner, thinking they can't be so bad, "they're just saying aloud what we're all thinking, they're not racist, just realistic...." etc.
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Barry the Sprout · 05-05-2002, 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by Melusine:
Actually that makes them less scary to me... if their reputation's impeccable they are much harder to combat, and people will trust them sooner, thinking they can't be so bad, "they're just saying aloud what we're all thinking, they're not racist, just realistic...." etc.
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Well, I was just pointing out an inconsistancy, thats all. Mind you, I don't think we need to spend too much time attacking their policies. They tend to fall apart if you even look at them too hard...

But yes, I totally agree. Respectability is a hell of a lot scarier than mindless thuggery. But quite a lot of them are now suited and booted, it looks like they might be able to bury an undesirable past at some point. But I sincerely hope not.

Melusine · 05-05-2002, 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by Barry the Sprout:
Well, I was just pointing out an inconsistancy, thats all. Mind you, I don't think we need to spend too much time attacking their policies. They tend to fall apart if you even look at them too hard...

Oh, I wasn't refuting anything you said, just making a general comment. I didn't know so many of them have been previously convicted, that's why. [img]smile.gif[/img]

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But yes, I totally agree. Respectability is a hell of a lot scarier than mindless thuggery. But quite a lot of them are now suited and booted, it looks like they might be able to bury an undesirable past at some point. But I sincerely hope not.

Nah, I don't think the media would let them, would they? It's too good not to use against them

Avatar · 05-05-2002, 06:08 PM

The British government shelved plans for Mayer elections in Bradford and other cities fearing BNP (british national parties) being elected.

05-05-2002, 06:16 PM

BNP elected? I'll watch for the temperature drop in Hades

05-05-2002, 06:04 AM	#31
Epona Zartan Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: London, England Age: 54 Posts: 5,164	Barry: You're absolutely right of course! The combined left vote was as big as the far-right vote. It's polarization, not a swing to the right. Talthy: In the Hackney council elections the Socialist Alliance (mostly Trots) got over 20% of the vote in several wards, and kept their deposit in every single seat where they had candidates - and the BNP (nazis) won 3 seats in Burnley - so we have the same polarization taking place in England. __________________ [img]\"http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/epona.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

05-05-2002, 06:23 AM	#32
Lanthir Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: April 3, 2002 Location: West Palm Beach Age: 44 Posts: 612	Ug you all have Le Pen we have Buchann here. Thank God he did not get elected Buchann that is. It was bad enough a few years ago when a Grand Wizard of the KKK got elected in Lousiana and just barely lost for Governor. __________________ <br /><br />[url]\"http://home.talkcity.com/ImaginaryPl/lanthir/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">All About Lanthir</a>

05-05-2002, 11:25 AM	#33
Talthyr Malkaviel Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: August 31, 2001 Location: Land of the Britons Age: 38 Posts: 3,224	Yeah I know epona, it's ridiculous... just because Blair's inadequate loads of people are turning to the BNP, especially in the more troubled areas. __________________ Resident cantankerous sorcerer of the Clan HADB<br />and Sorcerous Nuttella salesman of the O.R.T<br /> <br /><br />Say NO to the Trouser Tyranny! Can I drill you about this?

05-05-2002, 02:52 PM	#34
Horatio Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: September 19, 2001 Location: Behind these metal bars Age: 42 Posts: 3,117	Indeed, it'll be a sad day for the world if the BNP become the gov. in England. For those of you who don't know, the BNP is a "Send em back where they came from" party. While they have strong views on crime, they are extremely racist. The BNP is made up of criminals, and one was even photographed wearing a Nazi uniform. __________________ I <b>am</b> the party!!<br /> [img]\"http://zert0.net/iuti/img2/1381585-vi.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

05-05-2002, 05:17 PM	#35
Barry the Sprout White Dragon Join Date: October 19, 2001 Location: York, UK. Age: 42 Posts: 1,815	What always amuses me about the BNP is that they favour a tough policy on crime, yet nearly all of the members have convictions for violence. They appear to be tough on the kind of crime committed by people the wrong colour, thats for certain. But it would just be stupid to say they were against a good old punch up... __________________ [img]\"http://img1.ranchoweb.com/images/sproutman/certwist.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br /><br /><i>\"And the angels all pallid and wan,<br />Uprising, unveiling, affirm,<br />That the play is the tragedy, man,<br />And its hero the Conquerer Worm.\"</i><br /> - Edgar Allan Poe

05-05-2002, 06:08 PM	#39
Avatar Vampire Join Date: April 28, 2001 Location: Cambridge Age: 42 Posts: 3,877	The British government shelved plans for Mayer elections in Bradford and other cities fearing BNP (british national parties) being elected. __________________ <b>Ê†ë®Ñï†Ý \'s Avariel<br /></b><br />Creator and Mithril Protector of the ALSB Clan <br /> [img]\"http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/avatar.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

05-05-2002, 06:16 PM	#40
Lord Shield Guest Posts: n/a	BNP elected? I'll watch for the temperature drop in Hades

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