Spider Man 2

[Gangrell]

Originally posted by shadowhound: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Keal: Over all, the spiderman and X men movies are pretty different from the movies.

...Say what? </font>[/QUOTE]Comic book wise I think.

I know brute strength isn't always a factor, but you can't really compare the two heroes. You have Spiderman, who can lift ten tons as opposed to the Hulk who could lift up an entire mountain from crushing him.

Strength may, just may play a factor in winning

[Morgeruat]

Originally posted by Keal: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Dron_Cah: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Keal: (probably the lizard man, but I'm hoping for Venom) I would love to see Venom and/or Carnage in the next one. The rhino or scorpion would also be pretty cool. I havn't seen the movie yet, but why would he reveil his secret. He shows MJ before they get married, and Black Cat/Felicia Hardy (I bet Jessica Simpson would be able to play her, well, she looks like her) he shows Harry I think, but after a long time. As for the Hobgoblin and Green Goblin, who would be the Green Goblin, they Killed off Norman Osborn.

I'm guessing you haven't seen the movie. As in the comics, Harry will very likely become the Green Goblin.

As for Petey being too strong in the train scene, I'm not sure I agree with you. Spidey has limits, but, in the comics, he often surpasses these limits in times of great need, or emotion. Anyone remember when Aunt May was sick, and Spidey needed to get her the medicine, but was trapped under tons of rubble? That's essentially the same thing! Gosh, I love those comics! </font>[/QUOTE]I saw the first one, but Harry becomes the Hobgoblin after a while. </font>[/QUOTE]Actually Harry becomes the second Green Goblin (Norman does indeed come back several times, in fact it's almost as hard to keep him permanently dead as it is Wolverine) The Hobgoblin was Roderick Kingsley, who discovered one of the Goblins stashes of weapons. Kingsley framed Ned Leeds a friend of Peter, as the Hobgoblin (he died in the costume making it look like it was really him) The villain known as Jason Phillip Macendale (Jack-O-Lantern) also took up the mantle of the Hobgoblin for a time before Kingsley killed him and reclaimed the mask.

{editted for correct info}

[ 07-07-2004, 10:26 AM: Message edited by: Morgeruat ]

[Morgeruat]

some interesting background on spidey, just watchout for typo's http://www.superherostuff.com/Biogra...SpideyBio.html

[Morgeruat]

A great site with this info is [url=http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Hobgoblin%20(Spiderman%20Villain)]here[/url

[Morgeruat]

A brief history of the Green Goblins

As it turned out, Harold ("Harry") Osborn, Norman's son and Peter's friend, saw the battle and took pains to cover up his father's Goblin identity and manner of death. Already mentally weakened with a serious bout with narcotics, he blamed Spider-Man for his father's death, and upon learning Peter's identity from his father's records planned his revenge as the second Green Goblin. Peter managed to subdue him in battle that left Harry with amnesia and under the medical care of Dr. Barton Hamilton. Unfortunately, Hamilton's therapy with Harry revealed the secrets of the Goblin, which gave him the ambition of gaining the same power the Osborns had as the third Green Goblin. Eventually, the underpowered amateur was killed and the Goblin menace was buried yet again.

Later, fashion designer Roderick Kingsley discovered an abandoned secret lair of Norman Osborn's and set about to discover the rest of Osborn's equipment and records. With much of that accomplished, Kingsley created a variant of the Goblin identity as the Hobgoblin The Hobgoblin is a comic book supervillain appearing in the Marvel Comics universe as an enemy of Spider-Man. There have been two major characters to take up this identity.

Still later, Harry's insanity relapsed and he became the Green Goblin again on numerous occasions until he died from the side effects of the Goblin serum. His equipment and the identity of the Green Goblin was then briefly used by Philip Benjamin Urich, who tried to gain a reputation as super-hero - though he sometimes seemed to be as maniacal as his villainous predecessors. When his equipment was damaged during a battle against a Sentinel in the Onslaught Crossover, Phil was unable to repair or replace it and the fourth Green Goblin had to retire.

Soon after that it was revealed that Norman Osborn is still alive and is determined to plague Spider-Man's life still more, but with a more subtle approach. For a while a genetic construct acted as the fifth Green Goblin, following Norman's orders, but it proved unstable and died. Currently, Norman still acts as the Green Goblin. Of all the Goblins, he has proved to be the most formidable and the most resourceful.

[Bahamut]

that's a sad Goblin story...

the comics I have read were the ones with Spidey and Carnage and Venom... hehehe [img]smile.gif[/img]

Spider-Man now beats Batman... but then, you would like Batman too because he's Mr. Slick. Unlike Peter Parker who's um.. well a loser. But then he bags up a hot Mary Jane... while Bruce is... still a bachelor... sad twists of fate... you just can't have it all

[bio]

Norman Never really dies, he gets sent to different dimensions almost every time he is said to "die"

Yes, the comics and movies are very different from eachother, I didn't just mean their powers.

[shadowhound]

Just some info on some of the Spiderman villians just in case anyone is curious:

Doctor Octopus

The Hobgoblin

The Green Goblin

Mysterio

Kraven the Hunter

The Lizard

[T-D-C]

That was a good read shadowhound. Takes me back to the good old saturday morning cartoons of Spiderman. Meh what am I saying im 23 and still watching cartoons LOL.

[Dron_Cah]

Amen, brother. I love cartoons!