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Old 07-17-2002, 11:07 AM   #31
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I'm glad I came across this thread a couple hours after dinner.
Couple hours after dinner you say? You should almost be ready to do your duty and return some to the system
 
Old 07-17-2002, 11:10 AM   #32
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Couple hours after dinner you say? You should almost be ready to do your duty and return some to the system
Gosh, you mean you do yours that quickly? In just a couple hours?
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Old 07-17-2002, 11:13 AM   #33
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Couple hours after dinner you say? You should almost be ready to do your duty and return some to the system
Gosh, you mean you do yours that quickly? In just a couple hours?[/QUOTE] Mine is a fairly efficient First in last out system [img]smile.gif[/img] Put something in, and something has to come out
 
Old 07-17-2002, 12:59 PM   #34
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hehe, how interesting. this water matters has still not being solve yet after quite some time. wonder whose fault is this, the malaysian government or the singaporean government?
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Old 07-17-2002, 06:02 PM   #35
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Recycling toilet water is not a new thing ,i'ts been happening in the
UK for years , and judging by this link , in Ireland too

http://www.unilever.com/environments...luent_1891.asp
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Old 07-17-2002, 08:15 PM   #36
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Recycling toilet water is not a new thing ,i'ts been happening in the
UK for years , and judging by this link , in Ireland too

http://www.unilever.com/environmentsociety/casestudieslin ks/casestudies/ISSUE_Manufacturing_waste___effluent_1891.asp
I didn't know that.
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Old 07-17-2002, 09:36 PM   #37
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Since the two of you (KT Ong and Dundee Slaytern) are already debating off-topic, let me add my two cents.

We don't have any mandatory military service in the States unless the draft gets enacted in time of war; however, all males over eighteen must register. That said, I see nothing wrong and perhaps a lot of good in the idea of mandatory military service. I think it would do a lot of guys and gals a lot of good, including making them grow up a little instead of using their time in college as a 4-year party.

Do women not serve in your military at all? Women serve in the military in the US, although I don't know how much combat-related postings are available (the definition seems to change from time to time). When I was in, women couldn't be fighter pilots in the Air Force, but could, I think, in the Navy. And of course there were women pilots in fixed wing and helicopters who would fly cargo type craft into combat or near combat zones anyhow. Women can serve in virtually any other field -- missileers, cooks, combat support, medical, mortuary, you name it. I spent four and a half years in the Air Force, could and would have killed if ordered. I qualified on rifle and pistol. I won't say that women can do everything men can do, but frankly men are just as different between themselves as women are. There are a lot of men who are unsuited to combat physically or mentally.

I found a lot of your comments insulting. I don't mean that you were in any way flame-baiting. I am saying that you really don't seem to know women very well. Women are a lot stronger than you think, can usually survive more G-forces in aircraft, are better suited to submarines (per some studies), and can put up with blood and bodily ailments better than most men I know.

AND we can be calendar girls if we choose -- but don't you dare suggest that that and secretarial jobs are all we are good for or the only ways we could serve the military. I've done a hell of a lot more than that, as have most of my "sisters-in-arms".

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Old 07-17-2002, 09:43 PM   #38
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Whose fault is the water issue? Hard to say. Singapore for buying it at 3 sen (Malaysian cents) per gallon, & refusing to pay more for it? Or Malaysia for trying to renege on a contract?
Someone once told me, "What does it cost Malaysia to supply the water? Nothing! It's rain water that is collected in reservoirs that Singapore built, using pipes & pumps that we paid for."
The thing that irritates the hell out of me is that every once in a while the press up north starts picking on something. Politicians then jump on the band wagon and many mountain ranges are made out of molehills.
I resent being a convenient whipping boy that is always conveniently at hand to be used to score political points by Malaysian politicians domestically.
Unfortunately, it appears to me that Malaysia has a "big brother" attitude towards us, and they seem to think that we should always be obseqious towards them. As a result when we try to assert out independence & sovereignity they feel slighted and accuse us of "being insensitive to tehir feelings". Bah! Humbug!
To give you an idea of how they conduct their foreign affairs with us, let me give you an example. Singapore is connected to the southern tip of the Malayan peninsula by a Causeway, which was built by the British a long time ago. All of a sudden Malaysia decides that they want to build a bridge to replace the Causeway. Which is fine and good, except that THEY NEGLECTED TO CONSULTR US!!! They chose the site, awarded contracts etc when we haven;t even been informed officially of the whole project. And they expect us just to follow suit???
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Old 07-17-2002, 09:48 PM   #39
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Alicat (is your nick name a pun on your actual name? Just wondering)
Yes, we do have women serving in the Armed Forces, but afaik none of them are in front line combat positions (I could be wrong - I seem to remember reading about a female battery commander in one of our artillery units). At any rate, I know for sure we have at least to female pilots in the Air Force, but I think they fly either choppers or transports (C-130's).
What we don't have, and this has been the subject of many a 'debate', is women serving the compulsory NS that guys are required to do.
Personally, I can't fathom the logic. We are constrained by manpower resources. Wouldn't it be logical to get women to do NS, and post them to non-front line units (bases, admin HQs, etc) to free more guys for the combat & combat support units?

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Old 07-17-2002, 09:57 PM   #40
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Hayashi, about the Malaysians, the bridge thing proves that Mahathir wants to take us head-on as a cargo and trans-shipment hub. Once the bridge is built, the causeway can be demolished, allowing barges and small ships complete access through the Johor Strait. The new Malaysian port of Tanjong Pelepas, on the southwestern tip of Johor, threatens to pull 18 percent of business away our port. And with the wider, deeper channel sketched out in the proposal, Malaysia could grab back the 250,000 containers a year of Malaysian cargo that is now ferried through Singapore's port in order to circumvent the causeway, well according to the papers anyway.

And yes, I agree with Malaysia's big brother attidute, there have been numerous cases of this, the islamic headscarf issue for one.

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