11-19-2003, 09:24 PM | #31 | |
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Hmm and on Ziroc's comment about molestation to his son or daughter, or even if it were my own... I can't really say that I would shoot him, but yea I would beat him within an inch of his life, but that's me. [ 11-19-2003, 09:25 PM: Message edited by: Gangrell ] |
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11-19-2003, 09:46 PM | #32 | |
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A public trial would not have changed anything for Michael Jackson. He can easily afford the best lawyers in the world (and - ironically - retained Johnny Cochran, one of O.J.'s lawyers), so most people would believe that his lawyers got him off. Either way, Michael Jackson's reputation is going to be smeared. The only difference is whether it is over and done with quickly, or whether it drags out on public TV for over a year. In the end, those who believe Jackson is guilty would still believe it and those who believe he is innocent would still believe that also. That is why it was the best decision for him to go ahead and settle the case out of court.
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11-19-2003, 10:01 PM | #33 | |
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My oldest two boys are 7 and 5. It used to be a very common thing for at least one of them to wake up in the middle of the night and come climb in bed with my wife and I. For some reason, they always come to MY side of the bed. So I had to let them sleep in my spot. When that happened, I would usually just go and get in thier bed with the other son rather than trying to sleep comfortably in a full size bed with two other people. However, I would NEVER, EVER consider getting the same bed with any other child...not even my nephew. It just isn't a "normal" thing to do. It isn't "odd" for a parent and their child to share a bed (especially when the children are very young), but it is odd for a grown man to climb into bed with other peoples children. As for dangling his baby over the railing, I addressed that extensively when it happened, but here is a quick recap. When a baby does not want to be held, they have a habit of doing a move I call the "Back Arch Slide". They press their feet against the person holding them, then they lift their arms straight up, and simultaneously press against the person with their shoulders and feet. this causes their back to arch and - if you don't have a VERY FIRM grip on them - will allow them to easily slide right out of your arms. I have come very close to dropping all 3 of my boys when I tried holding them with one arm hooked under both of theirs the way Michael Jackson held his baby when he placed him over the rail. All I'm saying is that it would have taken less than a second for that baby to do the patented "Back Arch Slide" and - if he had done that - he would have fallen to his death. There would have been nothing Jackson could have done to prevent it. The ONLY way to prevent the child from sliding out of your arms when they do this is by hooking your OTHER ARM firmly between their legs. This not only stops the Back Arch, it also gives you a second handle to hold on to the baby with. The bottom line is that Michael Jackson simply doesn't know Jack S*** about handling babies. I didn't watch the famous interview, but those that did said he was obviously very nervous and uncomfortable when he tried to hold and feed his baby on camera. I'm not faulting Jackson for this lack of knowledge, just saying that he had no idea how close he came to dropping his son(?) to his death in front of the entire world.
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11-19-2003, 10:01 PM | #34 | |
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11-19-2003, 10:17 PM | #35 | |
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Yes, that is a "Barbaric" attitude and is in direct conflict with my Christian values and morals. But when it comes to someone injuring my children, there is no such thing as rational thought. I will exact my vengence and I will accept the punishment of my actions. |
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11-19-2003, 11:07 PM | #36 | |
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11-20-2003, 12:26 AM | #37 |
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This thread only reaffirms my notion as a lawyer that people rush to judgment without knowing any facts. We are less that 12 hours distant from the arrest warrant, less than 24 from the search warrant, and you folks have made up your minds. Which is exactly why if you were a jury, you'd get a 30 minute speech from the judge regarding the merits of "presumed innocent until proven guilty." It's a damned shame.
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11-20-2003, 01:18 AM | #38 | |
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11-20-2003, 02:56 AM | #39 | |
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[quote]Originally posted by Cerek the Barbaric:
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11-20-2003, 03:46 AM | #40 |
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I'm seated comfortably with the innocent until proven guilty crowd. MJ might be a weird-o-naut, but until a judge and/or jury hears the facts and makes a ruling in this case, I'm staying flatly neutral. Especially due to the potential of charges being sought in the interest of profiting.
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