02-19-2003, 11:03 PM | #31 | |
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Crustiest of the OLD COOTS "Donating mirrors for years to help the Liberal/Socialist find their collective rear-ends, because both hands doesn't seem to be working. Veitnam 61-65:KIA 1864 66:KIA 5008 67:KIA 9378 68:KIA 14594 69:KIA 9414 70:KIA 4221 71:KIA 1380 72:KIA 300 Afghanistan2001-2008 KIA 585 2009-2012 KIA 1465 and counting Davros 1 Much abliged Massachusetts |
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02-19-2003, 11:24 PM | #32 | |
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Wet road, curve, 110+mph, most perfect slide around a curve you have ever seen, turned the wheels into the slide didn't do squat, under 100mph on the straightaway now still looking out the passenger side window, bright idea to give it gas to pull the back end back inline, instantaneous 360's, sliding and spining, absolut thing of beauty, until it bounced off the guard rails.
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Crustiest of the OLD COOTS "Donating mirrors for years to help the Liberal/Socialist find their collective rear-ends, because both hands doesn't seem to be working. Veitnam 61-65:KIA 1864 66:KIA 5008 67:KIA 9378 68:KIA 14594 69:KIA 9414 70:KIA 4221 71:KIA 1380 72:KIA 300 Afghanistan2001-2008 KIA 585 2009-2012 KIA 1465 and counting Davros 1 Much abliged Massachusetts |
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02-20-2003, 05:09 AM | #33 | |
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02-20-2003, 08:34 AM | #34 |
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Actually I skim about 2 dozen news sources each morning while Im doing my morning Systems Checks. Everything from the Washington post and New York Times to the National Security Archive and the NASA JPL news links.
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02-20-2003, 08:35 AM | #35 | |
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Here's a comparison of two very similar trucks, one IRS with coils, one live axle with Leaf springs, the Caddy (with Coil springs) has greater load capacity. http://www.trucktrend.com/roadtests/...6_/index4.html The Grand Cherokee, a smaller vehicle with a fully independant suspension and coil shocks has only 400lbs less load capacity than the Durango. The Expedition with a solid rear axle and coil shocks has MORE capacity. I'm personally not against SUV's, we've got a Suburban for towing and it's great at it... but when the weather gets bad I'll take my Soob any day. Two weeks ago a blazer spun on icy roads and took the car in front of me out. 4wd is NOT good on slippery surfaces at speed, yet this guy seemed to think he could pass me and the guy in front of me on very icy roads. I used to have an old Ramcharger, and when the footing was not good the thing was very difficult to drive, even in 4wd. I guess when I think about it, the problem I've got with SUV's isn't the vehicles at all... it's the drivers. They hop in these vehicles and expect to drive them like a family sedan, and because they have a "big truck" they believe they can drive 65mph through ice, snow, and slush. That's why the majority of vehicles I see in ditches every year up here are trucks... it's not that they're inherently dangerous, it's that people don't know how to drive 'em. They don't handle or brake like a decent quality sedan, and people shouldn't be driving them like they do. I guess I wouldn't care at all if it wasn't MY life and the lives of my wife and kids they put in danger when they go flying down the road with a 5000lb vehicle and no traction. Sure most SUV accidents are single vehicle accidents (for the reasons stated above I imagine), but when they do hit another car as they careen around, they do a LOT of damage. The people out there who think they are buying their safety at the expense of mine cheeze me off more even that those who just don't know how to drive an SUV. In the end, I think the problem will go away once gas gets to $3.00/gal or more(which I've heard might happen this year depending on how the "war" goes). Then SUV's will be out of the daily driver game for most people, and used for what they're good at, towing, deep snow conditions (admittedly rare but it does happen), off roading, and maybe for the occasional trip where the family needs more leg room than their grocery getter provides. |
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02-20-2003, 11:31 AM | #38 | |
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On the other hand... I have hauled a LOT of bricks in the back of my Suburban... but I don't own a pickup and the suburban's worth maybe $5,000 tops. I live WAY outside the suburbs, and even here people who own SUV's rarely use them to haul. The people around here who want to haul own trucks. I wish I could spend $40k on a vehicle, then fold down those leather seats and fill the back with manure, but I just don't have that kind of cash. I honestly think that "very few" is a realistic assertion of the number of SUV's that are used for purposes where an SUV would actually be called for. [ 02-20-2003, 11:35 AM: Message edited by: Thoran ] |
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02-20-2003, 11:40 AM | #39 |
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How many of those $50,000 escalades do you think are out there? Ill bet ya dollars to donuts for every escalade there are 10 suburbans or other real working SUV's. If you don't see the SUV's being used, then you dn't live in farm country [img]smile.gif[/img] or timber country, or mining country. People may not use them for hauling every single day, but they fill aneed, otherwise they never would have come into existance inthe first place.
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