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It is science fiction. Are Dwarves and Midgets maligned by Lord of the Rings? Some latitude has to be given for peoples imaginations. I supported you on the Jim Carey aspect. In fact, were that the only time albinos have been poorly represented, that would be enough to be justifiably upset about. Cool off Sio. You have friends here. [img]smile.gif[/img] |
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01-09-2003, 08:43 AM | #32 | |
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However, I wear glasses. Call me 'four eyes' and you'll have a 'black eye'. Not passing judgement one way or the other, just throwing my experiences out there. |
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And trying to be funny? Hell theres a joke post somewhere around here, this isnt the time or place to be funny.
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01-09-2003, 08:47 AM | #34 |
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Soz Yorick, I admit im getting a bit pent up, btu I dont want to argue, mostly all im seeing though is what I see when I go to the shops, misunderstanding people that think if I make a single moan im been self-pittying, in this case, that if I think Albinos are been shown ina negative way that im just a crybaby pittying.
Hell i dont want pity and dont self-pitty, for a hundred assholes who think theyre cool to make a comment about me theres one person who thinks that my pale features look cool and nice.
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01-09-2003, 08:53 AM | #35 |
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Sio, with all due respect to you and what is very obviously a subject on which you hold passionate views, please try to look beyond your immediate emotional reactions when you reply to other people in this thread. If you review the responses, you will see that they are mostly supportive, with some requests for clarification and a degree of widening of the debate to include the broader issue of stereotyping.
What they do not indicate is any personal mockery of you and your situation. I would like you to consider taking a little more time in composing your responses and to look towards the broader meaning of the other contributors. Nobody is mocking you.
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theres always a time to be funny, i cracked jokes before when in a life threatening situation was trying to lighten the tension, admittedly got told to shutup, so not everyones cup of tea [img]tongue.gif[/img] but humour is meant to make you feel better, and im sorry but that website you posted is humourous in some ways, if you cannot see that posting the simpsons saying about a zombie "he has a chalk face" is NOTHING to do with albinos in any way then your not reading it right, i find it humourous in the extreme that anyone could take that to be a critisism of albinos, sorry thats just me, but i do find that funny, not to mention pretty stupid.
and yes dwarves are abused in the streets frequently, guy down one of my local pubs is a dwarf and he gets alot of it, hes a good bloke though doesnt deserve any of it, so yes being short is just as bad, and gets just as much abuse. and your last comment is what i been saying all along, it IS cool to be albino, its cool to be you! its cool to be unique and to be yourself thats whats cool and who cares about the retards who think because hollywood depicts some people with white hair and pale faces to be evil that all of em are? when i was at school me being short was looked at as being something wrong, it was a reason to abuse me constantly and every single day of my young life, so yes it was a problem at the time, now its just funny, yep im a shortarse, so what? call me it all ya want and it just bounces off, why should i care? |
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yeh im trying but for instance, Grungi keeps banging on about me saying its ok to called shorty, I havent said that, he's looking at little mistakes in wording I have used and then winding me up about it.
I dont think its right at all to be called, or ridiculed, but because I only said Albinism when starting my post, and not every other kind of condition around he must be thinking I only mean Albinism or something, I dunno, i was just trying to say about ti thats all but he's knowingly stressing em out, making me get annoyed.
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Years of non-supporting people, and insults kinda has me on constant edge. I see that people arent trying to have a go, its just most people around do. So sorry for been agressive, just not used to support
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Guys, remember, in a debate/discussion nobody has to win. Just remember to respect each other's points of view. Below is a short extract from advice I posted elsewhere. Please consider it in the context of this thread.
I would ask that all participants exercise restraint, especially when replying to a post that "pushes their buttons" so to speak. If you really feel enraged by a particular viewpoint, that is absolutely the wrong time to compose a hasty and emotional reply. Stand up, walk about, have a cup of coffee or go for a walk. In fact, do anything rather than start or participate in a flamewar. You are all reasonably intelligent people - use that intelligence to respond in a reasoned and respectful way.
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not banging on and not trying to wind you up im genuinely curious as to why your differentiating between dwarfism and albinos that was all, not trying to stress you out, trying to help you out, share my viewpoint with you etc.
i got shit on (sorry to say it but i did) repeatedly for years and years and years, at the age of 18 i became a different person and never looked back, basically from when i went to school at 7 i think it was until then i got picked on because i was short (probably because i was the easiest target for it), im using myself as an example for any minority who has ever been picked on or gets a "bad press" because im a better person now and the people that did it? fck em, they are scum, idiotic retarded morons IMO their opinions count for nothing because they know nothing, all of my friends are my friends and know what upsets me and what doesnt, calling me shortarse or making short jokes is fine by me and they all know it, attack my personality and im more likely to get upset. Hence why im banging on about "shortness" just using it as an example, im assuming you had the same kind of thing and your bitter about it too, but what you will tend to find online is most people are more open and more knowledgeable so you dont get the kind of retards that you do in school or in life, thats one thing to be said for the internet, it does tend to weed out people who are "ist" (racist, sexist, religionist, etc) at least on forums like this you wont find it. me personally i really couldnt care if you were 8 foot tall 10 foot wide and albino with a pigs tail and 5 eyes [img]tongue.gif[/img] (i might run screaming but ya never know [img]tongue.gif[/img] ) i would almost certainly make jokes about it unless i knew they hurt you, as i make jokes about everyone i know equally including myself, if you cant take it dont dish it, i always say. What i find appalling is people like myself and you who then do the same on to other people, ie they get abuse themselves because they are different but then pick on others who are different again, only people i would ever pick on are those who do something to deserve it through a bad attitude or personality. |
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