04-18-2002, 11:01 PM | #31 |
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I am an ex-reservist and i have noticed that reservists don't get as much training as regular forces. Yes they get the same training they just don't get the same amount of training as the regular forces.
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04-18-2002, 11:18 PM | #32 |
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yet when activated the resrvist becomes battle ready
but the point is it could have happened in any branch of the military
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04-18-2002, 11:24 PM | #33 |
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They still have to go thru more training to get battle ready. We don't know if this pilot was called up before he was fully battle trained. Only an investigation will tell what exactly happened. So before anyone else jumps to conclusions lets wait for the investigation to be completed first before we lay the blame on someone.
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04-19-2002, 12:35 AM | #34 | |
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I would ask though how many accidents vs how many thousands of sorties? say there have been..say 2 dozen 24 accidents..out of more than 10,000 sorties....24 out of 10,000 not to shabby a rate of success....but it can be way better. |
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04-19-2002, 02:31 AM | #36 |
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I had to get my info from the news also. They were talking to a Major from the American Central Command about what happened.
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04-19-2002, 10:00 AM | #37 | |
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I think Ryanamur makes the very valid point that these incidents will happen to all militaries and I can't agree more with the condolences expressed by Magik. And as a side note concerning Ryanamur's comment on incidents of Israeli friendly fire, the bombing of the USS Liberty during the Six Day War stands out in my mind as one of the most infamous "friendly fire" incidents on record. Just the contribution from a military history buff. |
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04-19-2002, 10:07 AM | #38 | |
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[quote]Originally posted by Argus:
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Nonetheless, military technology is much different since the 1990s than it was back then. With today's GPS's and advanced communications systems, there's no reason for what happened yesterday. It's a human error that should have never happened. Another little quick fact: close to 25% of the US death during Desert Storm were caused by their own friendly fire! [ 04-19-2002, 10:10 AM: Message edited by: Ryanamur ]
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04-19-2002, 10:20 AM | #39 |
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Ryanamur,
You're correct about the "friendly fire" figures from the Gulf War, 35 out of 150 or something along those lines. However, the use of percentages in this case is a little misleading since the overall casualty number among Allied forces was so low. The absolute number of 35 is telling in and of itself whether its 25% or 2%. Its chilling to think that the technology of war is such that in a large scale action such as the Gulf War only 150 Allied troops are killed, but the technology is not sufficient to keep 35 soldiers from dying from mistakes. War is hell...regardless of the statistics. |
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I think Ryanamur makes the very valid point that these incidents will happen to all militaries and I can't agree more with the condolences expressed by Magik. And as a side note concerning Ryanamur's comment on incidents of Israeli friendly fire, the bombing of the USS Liberty during the Six Day War stands out in my mind as one of the most infamous "friendly fire" incidents on record. Just the contribution from a military history buff.[/QUOTE]Far be it for me to be pedantic about this but the Sheffield Incident involved pilots of the Royal Navy rather than the RAF. One other fact. More British servicemen were killed by Americans than by Iraqis in the Gulf War.
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