10-28-2004, 08:15 AM | #31 |
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God, Jesus and Satan were probably left out of the DnD pantheon for a good reason.
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Good and thoughtful post Cerek. I'm adding a couple that I've heard and read frequently, addressed in yellow below.
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Then there's always the game Vampire (and all of its offshoots), that by nature do exactly as Cerek says. I think there are some key cultural differences in those who talk about the evils of RPGs and those who think they're harmless: the first depends on whether you believe the occult reflects reality in any sense. From those that level charges that I've read, there is an underlying assumption that spirits, witchcraft, and demons are real. The other is whether you believe that RPGs provide inherently immoral contexts and experiences, and whether or not players are in fact changed by that in their daily lives. This is possible, but see below for why I don't believe it (aside from personal experience). People who play AD&D are more likely to commit crimes than others of their age. People who play AD&D are also more likely to commit suicide. Though scary allegations, both of them are very much false. See the link from my other post in this thread (to religious tolerance.org). RPGers are actually less likely than their peers to do either one of these. |
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10-28-2004, 06:48 PM | #33 |
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Dispite being christian, I prefer "evil" or undead things in my gaming world anyway... makes me feel better about the dirt job I have to do.. rid the world of evil! woo hoo!
Our DM always creates his own gaming world, never the premade ones. And I'll tell you, he does an amazing job! There are times when I'm actually scared playing the game; which is what you want, right?
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10-28-2004, 10:23 PM | #34 |
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Well, I don't know about anyone else but for me the AD&D characterisation of 'Ilmater the suffering God' bears very close resemblance to the crucified Christ. So I wouldn't say the Judeo-Christian theogany has been overlooked in the AD&D pantheon.
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D&D is, was, and alsways should be an escape, a fun thing to do. It should not incorporate real-world things that can make one uncomfortable, something the FRCS has done here (for me anyway). BTW, the I happen to agree with the poster on the first page who said that he knew someone who had to give up Pokemon and Everquest b/c it was negatively affecting their lives. While it's never happened to me, it's so wrong to laugh at that person. Anything taken to extreme can turn into a bad thing, and if you're neglecting some things in your life that need to be done, and playing a video game instead, it is a problem that needs to be addressed.
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10-29-2004, 05:50 PM | #36 |
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Well, caring for the poor and downtrodden is a major aspect of most world religions, so it's only natural that the DnD universe (in this case FR) would have a deity for this.
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10-29-2004, 08:31 PM | #37 |
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BTW, the I happen to agree with the poster on the first page who said that he knew someone who had to give up Pokemon and Everquest b/c it was negatively affecting their lives. While it's never happened to me, it's so wrong to laugh at that person.
Yeah, that was me. And when they told me that, it's exactly what I did, laugh. But when they explained it to me, I understood. Another friend of mine was failing grade 10 badly and actually quit because of Everquest! That's just scary. I think I have to put some fault on the parents as well though.
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[Cheap comments from the first few panels of Dark Dungeons]
Problem 1) What are the odds that the game, especially in its early days, is going to have 4 gals to three guys? As I've heard joked before, it wouldn't have been considered such a nerdy game if that was the case! 2) 10 sodas for 7 people? Oh wait, he got that part right lol. 3) Note that they point out 'the thief'. The idea of allowing someone to play one is often used to smear DnD. 4) They made her leave? lol You know...once you die in DnD, you get to make a new character generally. Nobody makes you leave, especially if they haven't tried to resurrect you yet. 5) Neither do you get to declare that you blinded the monster with your light spell. The DM tells you if you succeeded. 6) And the wizard becomes the cleric in panel 3. Yes, I know it's embellished for effect, and that Chick never rolled up a character. Still... |
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