Crackdown on piracy?

[Vaskez]

another question: is it still illegal to download something you already own on DVD? Since it's like with software, no? You are paying for the right to use the content, not for the DVD disk, which costs next to nothing. so if you have paid for hte right to watch a film by buying it on DVD, arent you allowed to have a copy on your HD?

[Kyrvias]

I smell a loop hole.

EDIT: I finally got rid of my old avatar! YES!

[ 11-06-2005, 10:35 PM: Message edited by: Kyrvias ]

[Felix The Assassin]

Well sadly, the MPAA can only prosecute the hand that feeds it. As soon as we stop giving them millions on opening weekend, the sooner they will stop with us. It makes it hard to crack a uploder who proxies by thrice, and has a final route out of some un-heard of township in Africa. Or maybe it was the realitives of that group that attempted the 'Pirate" raid on the cruise liner?
Bah! He's here, he has money, he obeys the law, 'He will pay'!

[Kynaeus]

Originally posted by Sir Degrader: Just for that, I'm going to download a whole bunch of movies and freely distribute them. WITHOUT the MPAA's express written consent. Mhuahahahaha!

Why bother? All the stuff they churn out is utter *snip*Doggy doo doo*snip*

Hmm I do wanna know how they found who it was though. In my understanding, the ISP is the only one who knows which IP address they assign to who, and when. Therefore, the police'd have to get the equivalent of a warrant or court order to get the ISP to disclose the link between IP address and user name, address, no? another question: is it still illegal to download something you already own on DVD? Since it's like with software, no? You are paying for the right to use the content, not for the DVD disk, which costs next to nothing. so if you have paid for hte right to watch a film by buying it on DVD, arent you allowed to have a copy on your HD?

I'm pretty sure as long as you have evidence of illegal activity on someone's IP, the ISP will provide information for them to prosecuted.

Why bother downloading it if you paid for it on DVD already? If you're really desperate to have it, back the thing up yourself (which is legal)

EDIT: Family forum watch the swearing [img]smile.gif[/img] Have a nice day [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 11-08-2005, 06:37 PM: Message edited by: T-D-C ]

[Ilander]

Watch the profanity, Kynaeus. Try the edit button [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Earthdog]

I hope the judge will award them $29.95 for the value of each disk. I hope it gets kicked down to small claims court. Seems like they would have to prove the movies were also reproduced on hard media and reshared in order to incur a loss of $600,000 because those movies clearly were not worth that much to one individual.

[Larry_OHF]

If you're really desperate to have it, back the thing up yourself (which is legal)

For a long time on this website I have seen people saying that back-ups are legal, but I have never seen anyone prove it with a written law that it applies to "ALL" media without question.

I have looked around the house at my collection of movies, music, and other software, and have found no proof that I am legally allowed to make a copy for backup of "most" of my collection. In fact, in the verbage of one software program, I found this:

...This license shall not be considered a "sale" of the original software. In consideration of payment of the Licensee fee, which is a portion of the price you paid, (name of company) grants to the Licensee a nonexclusive right to use and display this copy, and only this copy...

I think people "feel" that it is their right to make a backup, but in truth it is only allowed at the present time if the company selling the product actually prints the permission.

For example, if I go to Walmart.com and download a song for .88¢, I get a license allotment of ten copies or that the license can transfer to up to 2 more PCs. In other words, if it is written, it is legal. In the first example it is not legal to make even one personal copy for backup.

[ 11-12-2005, 09:08 AM: Message edited by: Larry_OHF ]

[ZFR]

Originally posted by Larry_OHF: quote: If you're really desperate to have it, back the thing up yourself (which is legal)

For a long time on this website I have seen people saying that back-ups are legal, but I have never seen anyone prove it with a written law that it applies to "ALL" media without question.

I have looked around the house at my collection of movies, music, and other software, and have found no proof that I am legally allowed to make a copy for backup of "most" of my collection. In fact, in the verbage of one software program, I found this:

...This license shall not be considered a "sale" of the original software. In consideration of payment of the Licensee fee, which is a portion of the price you paid, (name of company) grants to the Licensee a nonexclusive right to use and display this copy, and only this copy...

I think people "feel" that it is their right to make a backup, but in truth it is only allowed at the present time if the company selling the product actually prints the permission.

For example, if I go to Walmart.com and download a song for .88¢, I get a license allotment of ten copies or that the license can transfer to up to 2 more PCs. In other words, if it is written, it is legal. In the first example it is not legal to make even one personal copy for backup. [/QUOTE]I remember seeing on a few of my software (games) license agreements "(except to make one personal back-up copy)" or somesuch. Only on few of them though. Not at home so can't give you exact titles.

[Larry_OHF]

Right you are; some companies say yes and some say no. The problem therefore is that if one says yes, the world thinks that they all have to be yes. Big mistake.

[shamrock_uk]

Actually, I believe that the record companies try their hardest to deny you the provision to take personal backups but that (to my knowledge) the right to make a backup copy is consistently upheld in courts whenever the case is bought to trial.

I don't know about America, but certainly in France this is aok, according to this blog on patent law. I'm 99% sure it's ok in Britain as well, can remember reading a court case about it somewhere.