Armed Police Shoot Man Dead on Underground - Page 3

Szass-Tam · 07-26-2005, 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by shamrock_uk:
Given he vaulted a ticket barrier to escape police and get onto the train then refused to stop again I'd say they were justified nontheless.

It's still too early to be making decisions, we'll have to wait for more information about the man in question.

Sever · 07-26-2005, 10:03 AM

Poor guy.

johnny · 07-26-2005, 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by Sever:
Poor guy.

Agreed, but why the hell did he run away ? Especially during these days where police officers might be a little itchy around the triggerfinger, i can't say it was a really smart move from the guy. If he would have just stopped and put his hands in the air he would be alive as we speak. What a way to die.

Morgeruat · 07-26-2005, 11:08 AM

What I've read said that he was in the country trying to help pay for his father's cancer treatment, and his temprorary visa was likely expired, hence he was most likely trying not to get deported for being in the country illegally.

[ 07-26-2005, 11:09 AM: Message edited by: Morgeruat ]

Aragorn1 · 07-26-2005, 11:12 AM

Well if someone shouts, "stop, armed police," running isn't a good idea. Doing so after the recent events just compounds the stupidity. Although unfortunate I think that by acting as he did he brought it on himself.

Chewbacca · 07-26-2005, 01:50 PM

Fleeing is not a capital offense but shooting someone who is prone multiple times in the head is.

Timber Loftis · 07-26-2005, 02:01 PM

Unless they're an annoying liberal, then you deserve a medal for having the chutzpah to shoot them in the head more than once. They're so brain dead, it takes multiple shots to get the thinking part.

Seriously, though, the guy appeared to be a threat, and ignored orders to stop, fleeing toward a crowd and trains. Had he had a bomb, it could have been devastating. And, in light of recent events, the threat was seen to be real and imminent. There is a difficult balance between letting a threat continue and preserving the liberty of individuals. In this case, I think the police made a decision that was reasonable.

As for Felix pulling his punches, he was kinder than he should have been. The last time I pulled my punch was in 8th Grade when Jason F. told me to punch him first, and I didn't. He then put my tooth through my lip. Lesson learned, and I'll never fail to throw the 1st punch again.

But, now we can see exactly how quickly a thread can get kicked over to the CE forum -- where it belonged to begin with.

[ 07-26-2005, 02:05 PM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ]

Chewbacca · 07-26-2005, 02:27 PM

They followed this guy for a while beforehand, they even let him on a bus for a 15 minute ride to the subway station. Why would the police allow a suspected suicide bomber on a bus? It doesn't add up to a reasonable conclusion.

Timber Loftis · 07-26-2005, 02:43 PM

Hmmmm.... maybe they were waiting for just the right moment to shoot him in the head so they could piss off liberals like yourself?

No, that doesn't make sense either. Your ~~conspiracy theory?~~ Erm... conclusion???

DrowArchmage · 07-26-2005, 02:49 PM

thats gay.really. i was and still am under the impression you cannot shoot an unarmed man unless he is threating multiple lives.

07-26-2005, 10:03 AM	#22
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07-26-2005, 11:08 AM	#24
Morgeruat Jack Burton Join Date: October 16, 2001 Location: PA Age: 44 Posts: 5,421	What I've read said that he was in the country trying to help pay for his father's cancer treatment, and his temprorary visa was likely expired, hence he was most likely trying not to get deported for being in the country illegally. [ 07-26-2005, 11:09 AM: Message edited by: Morgeruat ] __________________ "Any attempt to cheat, especially with my wife, who is a dirty, dirty, tramp, and I am just gonna snap." Knibb High Principal - Billy Madison

07-26-2005, 01:50 PM	#26
Chewbacca Zartan Join Date: July 18, 2001 Location: America, On The Beautiful Earth Age: 51 Posts: 5,373	Fleeing is not a capital offense but shooting someone who is prone multiple times in the head is. __________________ Support Local Music and Record Stores! Got Liberty?

07-26-2005, 02:01 PM	#27
Timber Loftis 40th Level Warrior Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 11,916	Unless they're an annoying liberal, then you deserve a medal for having the chutzpah to shoot them in the head more than once. They're so brain dead, it takes multiple shots to get the thinking part. Seriously, though, the guy appeared to be a threat, and ignored orders to stop, fleeing toward a crowd and trains. Had he had a bomb, it could have been devastating. And, in light of recent events, the threat was seen to be real and imminent. There is a difficult balance between letting a threat continue and preserving the liberty of individuals. In this case, I think the police made a decision that was reasonable. As for Felix pulling his punches, he was kinder than he should have been. The last time I pulled my punch was in 8th Grade when Jason F. told me to punch him first, and I didn't. He then put my tooth through my lip. Lesson learned, and I'll never fail to throw the 1st punch again. But, now we can see exactly how quickly a thread can get kicked over to the CE forum -- where it belonged to begin with. [ 07-26-2005, 02:05 PM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ] __________________

07-26-2005, 02:27 PM	#28
Chewbacca Zartan Join Date: July 18, 2001 Location: America, On The Beautiful Earth Age: 51 Posts: 5,373	They followed this guy for a while beforehand, they even let him on a bus for a 15 minute ride to the subway station. Why would the police allow a suspected suicide bomber on a bus? It doesn't add up to a reasonable conclusion. __________________ Support Local Music and Record Stores! Got Liberty?

07-26-2005, 11:12 AM	#25
Aragorn1 Symbol of Cyric Join Date: July 3, 2001 Location: Cornwall England Age: 38 Posts: 1,197	Well if someone shouts, "stop, armed police," running isn't a good idea. Doing so after the recent events just compounds the stupidity. Although unfortunate I think that by acting as he did he brought it on himself.

07-26-2005, 02:43 PM	#29
Timber Loftis 40th Level Warrior Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 11,916	Hmmmm.... maybe they were waiting for just the right moment to shoot him in the head so they could piss off liberals like yourself? No, that doesn't make sense either. Your ~~conspiracy theory?~~ Erm... conclusion??? __________________

07-26-2005, 02:49 PM	#30
DrowArchmage Mephistopheles Join Date: July 29, 2004 Location: Mt. Pleasant, MI Age: 34 Posts: 1,400	thats gay.really. i was and still am under the impression you cannot shoot an unarmed man unless he is threating multiple lives. __________________ "Love is an odd thing, as odd a thing there is" -al'Lan Mandragoran, Last Lord of the Seven Towers

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