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Old 02-22-2005, 05:50 PM   #21
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In my opinion, once someone complete the sentence for his crime, he/she is free, the person suffered the consequence of his acts.

Monitoring and making public knowledge the person's every move is persecution, or stalking.

There was a case here where someone got very little jail time because he was well known by the public, so his personal life was over. The Judge decided that since the public would treat him poorly for the rest of his life it was a big enough sentence for him.

So here you have it. You want criminals to stay in prison longer? Then stop taking justice into your own hands, so that it doesn't have to go nicer on criminal to compensate for what you do.

If you treat the person like a criminal for the rest of his life, then why would he stop his actions? The punishment will never stop anyway.
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Old 02-22-2005, 07:13 PM   #22
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Yes you all make perfect sense... and the part of me that feels sympathy for the reformed criminal wholeheartedly agrees with you. BUT the part of me that wants only to protect my family hears this: Since some people take the law into their own hands to harass criminals, I personally should be kept in the dark about a potential threat to my children.

Anonymity for criminals is based on the notion of protecting the criminal (or "reformed" criminal) from us... when for me personally, the opposite situation is the reality. I would never assault or otherwise harrass an X-con, but I would be more able to protect my family if I knew there was a known risk of (insert whatever crime here) in that individual. Unknown risks I can't do much about (other than be a good parent), but if something happened to one of my kids... and the perpetrator was a known danger and the information was purposely withheld from me for his/her benefit, I'd lose it.

Orbost, of your list, "murderers? terror suspects? kidnappers? armed robbers? petty thieves? fraudsters? drug users?", I'd absolutely want to know if murderer, terrorist (not suspect), kidnapper, drug dealer, or ANY threat to my family lived in close proximity to me. I don't agree with singleing out abusers, and I definitely don't agree with people taking the law into their own hands, but I also don't agree with withholding information from me in order to protect a person who's proven themself a threat. I'd rather see stricter punishments for vigilantes (or maybe just enforcement of the laws that exist) as a way of dealing with that problem.

I know it sounds cold and heartless... but my sympathy for criminals extends only as far as it does not risk the safety of my family, it's as simple as that.
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Old 02-22-2005, 08:07 PM   #23
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It's been said once, but I'll note it down again because it's gotten lost..

People can end up on that list because they where busted with their willing partners because they where over the age of consent and their other half was not..

Before the age of consent and sexual act is considered rape in the eye's of law..


I've got no problem with a register, it helps stop offenders from getting high risk jobs or owning property within school areas..

If that information should be public or not, well I think that it should, but the offence and information from the trial should be avalible also.


I can't say more on the teacher student thing, but it is a subject close to my heart.
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