GW v. WOW

[TheCrimsomBlade]

Originally posted by SpiritWarrior: Yeah, AV is actually pretty active on the weekends on my server but they are looking for ways to improve it still. I think I will stick to WoW for now. In my view, there is alot of endgame content and 40 extra levels. This is not an "I told you so" line but the lack of levels (content) kinda finally explains why GW is free. I was trying to figure out how they were making it pay for itself. Not a bad thing of course, the fact that it is free still entises alot of people but me, I'm a bit hardcore when it comes to MMO's. GW sounds more of a casual-gamer MMO.

My son plays WoW so I have been able to have some fun with it and, It is alot of fun!!
But it is nothing like Guild Wars the fact that you can't have some turkey who runs the server your on deside the clown that stood back while you did all the work gets the drop really pissed me off. And to have a level 50 come up and bash you when you tried helping him also sucks. I really do not like the Idea of anyone that has the money can buy and sponser a server then play favorites to the so called regulars that play on his server and after you do all the work tell you that the other player needs the weapon drop in order to do some quest and give it to him when he did nothing to get it is not fair gaming. What I'm not aloud to do that mission and I don't need it.
Every time I play WoW I walk away Pissed off at the game play and the little guy bashing of lets crush the new guy and get in your way and just mess with you. In guild wars if that happens you put there name in ignor and they are gone you can see them and they can't see you or hear them or interact with them.
And no Private owned servers with different rules for each server no thanks. WoW can be fun its is just that too many kids have nothing better to do but lay in wait for Noobs then steel the drops while your fighting for you life and run off and dissapear. I'll stick with the Stratage and The class act of guild wars rather than the Hack and slash no tactics required WoW. In Wow the strong win in Guild Wars the Smart win and I like that alot better.

[Duagloth Duskryn]

Hmm, you cant really compare this two games. WoW is a real MMORPG and GW is more like Diablo 2 in 3D. In Guild Wars the massivly from MMORPG is missing, because the max player number is just 8. In WoW the most important Part is getting XP to reach a higher lvl and than go and kill the little newbies. Or collecting new set items...

In Guild Wars the main aspect is PvP. Not the level is important, your skills are important. In guild wars the max lvl is 20, you`ve reached it after 30-40 hours, thats not really a long time. After that the real chalange starts, you have to find a good Team for the PvP matches. And thats the Problem, your teamwork must be perfect if you want to win.
Thats exciting, each player has the same equipment and only the skills and teamwork is important, thats what GW is....

[Mr. Mopery]

Originally posted by TheCrimsomBlade: Lvl 20 Max level takes close to 400 hrs to get to and then your at the Half way point in the PvE part of the game. Atfer which you keep gaining experience points but not levels.

Huh? Even with my first character, taking a whole lot of time to run around, it took about 90 hours. Maybe more or less, can't remember. This is my first MMORPG and I can only play between work and school, so it's not as if I've plotted out the quickest routes either.

Having said that, at level 20 I still have a bunch of skills to collect and there's still much to do. And I haven't tried PvP yet, mainly because I'm lazy and the thought of some uber-leet retard gloating over my corpse annoys me. But I figure when PvE gets tiring I'll try that and sooner or later the expansion will come out and hopefully add a bunch more stuff.

[T-D-C]

Yeah I'm only level 17 on one character and level 12 on another and I reckong I only play for an hour or so ever few days. Im no where close to 400 hours of game time. Plus I have been doing all the missions and following the storyline.

[Duagloth Duskryn]

Originally posted by T-D-C: Yeah I'm only level 17 on one character and level 12 on another and I reckong I only play for an hour or so ever few days. Im no where close to 400 hours of game time. Plus I have been doing all the missions and following the storyline.

ok, 400h is to much, really

I needed about 30-40 hours to get to lvl 20, and 20 more hours to get to the last Mission...

In never finished the game because the Black isle Compilation 2 arrived

[SpiritWarrior]

Originally posted by TheCrimsomBlade: quote: Originally posted by SpiritWarrior: Yeah, AV is actually pretty active on the weekends on my server but they are looking for ways to improve it still. I think I will stick to WoW for now. In my view, there is alot of endgame content and 40 extra levels. This is not an "I told you so" line but the lack of levels (content) kinda finally explains why GW is free. I was trying to figure out how they were making it pay for itself. Not a bad thing of course, the fact that it is free still entises alot of people but me, I'm a bit hardcore when it comes to MMO's. GW sounds more of a casual-gamer MMO.

My son plays WoW so I have been able to have some fun with it and, It is alot of fun!!
But it is nothing like Guild Wars the fact that you can't have some turkey who runs the server your on deside the clown that stood back while you did all the work gets the drop really pissed me off. And to have a level 50 come up and bash you when you tried helping him also sucks. I really do not like the Idea of anyone that has the money can buy and sponser a server then play favorites to the so called regulars that play on his server and after you do all the work tell you that the other player needs the weapon drop in order to do some quest and give it to him when he did nothing to get it is not fair gaming. What I'm not aloud to do that mission and I don't need it.
Every time I play WoW I walk away Pissed off at the game play and the little guy bashing of lets crush the new guy and get in your way and just mess with you. In guild wars if that happens you put there name in ignor and they are gone you can see them and they can't see you or hear them or interact with them.
And no Private owned servers with different rules for each server no thanks. WoW can be fun its is just that too many kids have nothing better to do but lay in wait for Noobs then steel the drops while your fighting for you life and run off and dissapear. I'll stick with the Stratage and The class act of guild wars rather than the Hack and slash no tactics required WoW. In Wow the strong win in Guild Wars the Smart win and I like that alot better. [/QUOTE]No offense meant and maybe it was just the way you said it but most of the situations you describe above make no sense. I have no idea how you got onto a private server but I assure you they are illegal. At max they can hold like 20 players I hear, and of course they are free servers, thus the illegal part since WoW is a P2P game. There is no way you can open the box and log onto one of the few pirated servers without hacking around with the files.

How can a level 50 'bash' you for helping him? How can quest items be traded? How can your drops be stolen when you have already 'tapped' the mob?

Finally, how can you say WoW is hack n slash when it is the no.1 RPG of this year and when you only played for a short time on a seemingly private server with it's own rules as you put it? Why do you have to go there and try bring down this great game down yet again, while at the same time attempting to elevate your own personal favourite? When you say it requires no tactics or strategy and the like you suggest that those of us who play it lack the intellect to play anything with these qualities.

I could easily have said in my above post that in my opinion GW looks like a cheap, fantasy console-game with little or no effort put into the artwork and graphics. Or that it is where the little kiddies go who don't have a credit card which surely means that since kids are the main playerbase it is a dumbed down and simple game and there is no strategy or tactics required and everyone has a nice l$$t name which hurts your eyes. But I didn't...

Have your opinion by all means but remember for the sake of peace, some of these opinions are better left unsaid. I had decided 20 levels was too few for me and that was it. Why do we have to do this every time someone asks for a comparison?

[T-D-C]

Originally posted by Duagloth Duskryn: quote: Originally posted by T-D-C: Yeah I'm only level 17 on one character and level 12 on another and I reckon I only play for an hour or so ever few days. Im no where close to 400 hours of game time. Plus I have been doing all the missions and following the storyline.

ok, 400h is to much, really

I needed about 30-40 hours to get to lvl 20, and 20 more hours to get to the last Mission...

In never finished the game because the Black isle Compilation 2 arrived [/QUOTE]That definatly sounds right. I think both games have their merits and when I am finished with GW (PvP doesn't do that much for me) I will most probably try WoW.

Both games are great and neither should be put down in a conversation like this. No offence Crimson but everytime one of these conversations comes up you do tend to bash WoW and elivate GW higher than I think it really should be.

Sure it is a great game but there is alot wrong with it that needs to be fixed (I.E Level 5 people in the Ascalon Areana with Droknars armour. This has been around for months and still isn't closed with a level restriction)

I'm sure there are things wrong with WoW as well but not as game balancing PvP wise (at the earlier levels) as this is

[Lord of Alcohol]

I disagree TDC, this actually the exact sort of thread he should be promoting Guildwars on, the title is GW vs WoW is it not? If it were happening on a WoW thread I'd not be happy but this is a discussion of both. I like woW, not going to GW for a lot of reasons, you stated a lot of them. BUT Crimsonblade has a right to promote the GW in this thread I would think? The title says it all. Oh and TDC, if you get WoW- Hellscream server Thuvia mage/Fallopia priest look me up [img]smile.gif[/img]

WoW is the best selling MMO ever created. So far, 3.5 million players worldwide. Seriously, no game has ever gotten close to that mark.

Secondly, if you go WoW for PvP, expect a lot of crap from people. It's either Shaman this or Paladin that. Everyone gives this whole song and dance on how every class should be nerfed but theirs yada yada yada. It is a fact that there are some major imbalance issues PvP wise for WoW, but the extent at which people complain is ridiculous.

[Ivelliis]

Yeah...but Shamans should be nerfed, everyone knows that [img]tongue.gif[/img]

And you think that's complaining, look at the Hunter boards. It's all "We've been hit with a stealth nerf stick" blah blah blah.

The game is fairly even (besides Shamans, but I've not much experience with them). Each class is strong against one and weak against another, but sometimes it's luck.

I play my hunter (Night Elf, 44) and I can take down rogues, warlocks, other hunters, sometimes mages (unless frost specced) fairly easily. Warriors kill me straight out, they have charge which is instant melee range, so I'm pretty much screwed when they get hamstring on me (slowing effect).

If anyone plays on the EU server Earthern Ring then whisper Ivelliis [img]smile.gif[/img]