Is it the guns fault?

[Night Stalker]

Nobody wants to accept the fact that bad things happen to good people, and sometimes there is no blame or recourse. It goes along with societies' inability to cope with death. Couple that with this greedy, litigeous, lottery mentality nation and .... oh boy!

One bad thing I will say about Capitolism - EVERYTHING is for sale, even your soul. There is only so much wealth, not everyone can be wealthy.

[Night Stalker]

Originally posted by Timber Loftis: Sir Krustin, my firm has a rather decent aviation law practice, so I know what you mean. One nit-picky point: had he (our hypothetical sniper victim) died in a landslide at work, worker's comp would give the widow income. What about the $$$$ given to victims of 9/11. Do you folks support that? If so, would something similar be appropriate for the sniper victims? In case you didn't know, in most cities/states if you are a victim of violent crime and can't afford medical care a state fund covers it for you.

I thought is was appalling. Charity is nice, but some of those caught in the WTC were well to do on their own. That money could have been better spent on needy people. AND THE FED GOV IS NOT A CHARITY! Tax dollars should never go to something like that. Rebuilding the infrastructure that was destroyed in NYC, sure, but not sympathy funds.

I would like to know how much charity money has been raised since for other needy people, not just "victims of [insert publically covered disaster]". I'm betting very low amounts.

[Timber Loftis]

Great posts, Night Stalker. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

I just hope I get better life insurance before I happen to get hit by a bus, better Renter's Insurance before the people on the 14th floor (directly above) flood me, etc, etc. Oh, wait, all those insurance bastards do is deny, deny, deny.

Truly, though, I agree that it's not society's responsibility to cover everyone's bad luck.

[Charlie]

I heard a similar "sue story" concerning the UK and another country over landmines.

Listen to me brother, if anyone ever makes that stick then the rest of the world will be suing China for inventing gunpowder.....They won't get paid.

[ 01-16-2003, 06:42 PM: Message edited by: Charlie ]

[AzRaeL StoRmBlaDe]

thats absolute poppycock, and a waste of precious judicial resources that could be better used elsewhere, such as keeping OJ off the streets. I feel for the victims and their families but this is completely frivolous and should be thrown out of court

[Night Stalker]

DON'T get me started on insurance companies right now TL! I live in NJ! The greedy thieving &$@$!&&*!&!^#^!#^*&&*!#^#!#$@##^&*! [img]graemlins/madhell.gif[/img] I would not be supprised that a Sopprano was a board member of one of the major insurance co.s.

[Charlie]

Incidentally, who do you sue? The gunmaker, the bullet maker, the gunpowder producer, the shellmaker, the man who sold the gun, the man who sold the metal that made the gun...

A gun has saved many a mans life, as has a sword a longbow...whatever. Obviously in the wrong hands and at the wrong time, well history speaks for itself.

[Sir Krustin]

I see a lot of people share my views in this matter.

I agree that governments are not a charity. Too many people (esp. here in Canada) expect a handout from the government whenever they need money. NEWS FLASH PEOPLE - Everything the government spends has to be taxed out of the public! There are more efficient ways to help people than use the government.

If the government decides to help, they should at least exempt those that don't need it and make sure that people that DO need it, get it promptly.

Government exists to:
1)Defend national borders,
2) settle disputes with a courts/policing system, and
3)Be the protector of individual rights - not be the prime violator of said rights.

[Ar-Cunin]

Apperently tha lawsuit is against both the store that sold the gun and the manefacturer that sold it to the store.

The argument is that the store should not have sold the rifle, becauce the sniper (can't remember the name) was prohibited from buying due to a prior conviction - and that the manefacturer shouldn't have sold it to the store, because the store was known for selling firearms to people who wasn't allowed to buy them (it was fined by the Federal Government).

So I won't say that the families don't have a chance of winning - they are just using 'The American Way'

[Timber Loftis]

Well, Ar-Cunin, knowing those facts they may have a fair lawsuit, and fairly so if you ask me. Selling guns to a convicted felon? D'Oh!
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