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Old 01-13-2003, 12:49 PM   #21
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...Another story. A father was in his house at night, with his 10 year old daughter upstairs asleep. Three people banged at the door, threatening to kill everyone inside. Bear in mind that the father did NOT know these people, and that there was no reason for the attack. Anyway, the three men are banging at the door, trying to brake it down. The father is holding the door back, and his daughter is on the stairs crying while these men are still threating to kill them both. The father grabs a knife and pokes it through the letter box. Two of the men ran off, the third was stabbed and killed from the knife. This man was also sent to prison
Now THAT is what I consider an injustice. If someone is threatening my family...you had better believe I will use whatever force I can to prevent it.

I do keep two loaded pistols in my house and I would not hesitate to use them if someone broke in. As Larry said, I am NOT going to assume their intentions are anything BUT harmful to my family. It isn't like they climbed through a window thinking it was their house. They know they shouldn't be there and I will show them exactly why that was a bad decision on their part.

Unlike Larry, I will not stop when they get in the front yard. I will stop when they get out of range.
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Old 01-13-2003, 01:00 PM   #22
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To me this sounds like theft - not robbery. The three suspects tried to steal while the owner was in the back-office. I also can't find any mentions of the suspects carrying weapon - and nothing to justify shooting them.
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Old 01-13-2003, 01:40 PM   #23
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Again, I'll simply the legal primer on this matter.

In most all US States you can only use deadly force to counter deadly force. In the home, the burden is lessened - in robbery situations, you are not expected to ascertain that the intruder actually has a deadly weapon before you fire on him.

In almost all states - with there being some specific exceptions in TX and LA - you cannot fire on a fleeing felon. Even if you think the CPU he's carting away *is* a threat to your life, you cannot use deadly force to simply protect your property.

This explains one of the examples. The letter-slot knife example is one I'd have to investigate further to be able to explain.
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Old 01-13-2003, 03:36 PM   #24
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If a shop owner can kill to protect his wares then human life is not worth a can of beans.
I have to disagree, Donut. If you have to be afraid of protecting yourself, your family and your things then life isnt worth living. What good is haveing a business and trying to make something of yourself if people can just waltz right in and take what ever they want money included.[/QUOTE]Good point. The guy's been working hard for 26 years, trying to make an honest living, and some punks think they can take whatever they want. They should give that man a medal.
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Old 01-13-2003, 08:15 PM   #25
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This old man reminds me of Mooshie(Montolio Brouchee) from R.A. Salvatore's books. LOL.
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