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Old 06-07-2002, 11:38 PM   #21
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the Improved Mace of Disruption will work, but the normal one won't. The programmers made it so only +4s and +5s would work (on the demilich in WK, of course, +6s will too), and the Improved MoD counts as +5 against undead.
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Old 06-08-2002, 04:14 AM   #22
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Old 06-08-2002, 10:47 AM   #23
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thank you all for your help. since i just started the game days ago, I have no +4 wops. so I think I better wait until i reach chapter 6, as many of you have suggested.

again i like to thank you all for your help.
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Old 06-08-2002, 10:52 AM   #24
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the Improved Mace of Disruption will work, but the normal one won't. The programmers made it so only +4s and +5s would work (on the demilich in WK, of course, +6s will too), and the Improved MoD counts as +5 against undead.
Unless you have actual experience of this thing working, I would say it dosent. I dont think IE can handle a weapon with different enchantment levels against different targets. Although it does handle damage and thaco changes.

In fact there was a thread a couple months back with a guy asking why MoD diddnt work against kangaax. In fact there are several such threads thoughout history.
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Old 06-08-2002, 11:09 AM   #25
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by clicking on him with your mouse DUH!!

Only joking, well not really, but anyway, Use the Carsomyr or mace of disruption thats what i used and i soloed it, both times i killed him. No probs.
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Old 06-08-2002, 11:37 AM   #26
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Sunray should work but it does not, Exxon! False Dawn does not work as well. Kangaxx the demilich is not undead! Mace of Disruption cannot dispel the demilich form. Protection from Undeads does not help. Using the scroll of Protection from Magic on Kangaxx does not work, too - if you use the scroll on the lich then the protection does not survive the change form, if you use the scroll on the demilich then you do not prevent it from casting Imprisonment.
Big tactics against Kangaxx are really rare. I was unable to find out something better, something that would really work and that would not rely on pure luck.
Ummm dude you need some correction:

first off, Kangaxx (even tho I never fought him) IS undead, since hes a demi-lich after all.

second, WHY would a mace of disruption dispel his demi-lich form

Third, You are NOT supposted to use the protection from Magic scrolls on Kangaxx, you are supposted to cast it on yourself.
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Old 06-08-2002, 12:22 PM   #27
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Ok ...
There are 2 ways of using a protection from Magic scroll ... one of them is casting it on your enemy, since Magic is resisted inside the sphere as well. All spells will fail, when you're surrounded by a Protection from Magic globe. The reason that the globe's gone, once you kill his Lich-form, is probably because he becomes something else, so the game doenst carry the PfM-globe over to the demi-lich form.

The Lich form can be hurt by sunray . .the Demi-lich form cannot .. I tried Fals Dawn, i tried Sunray . .both were ineffective.
Which in a way makes sense, because IIRC demi-liches are immuned to all but lvl 10 spells
( Melph's Minute M's excluded, since these are meteors, not spells)
The MoD CAN indeed hit kangaxx ... im not sure if its just the upgraded version, but the upgraded version usually kills him in one to two blows . .there are numerous posts describing that too ...
Its enchantment lvl ( NOT the THAC0-bonus) is +5 after the upgrade )

You can kill kangaxx both forms quite easily low-lvl using this method ... you only need a decent fighter OR a decent mage ....

Fighter:
Do the trademeet quest and receive the Flame's tongue (longsword) ... it's enchanted +4 against undead and WILL hit kangaxx in demi-lich form.
Now but both a PfM-scroll and a PfU-scroll. Cast the PfM-scroll on yourself and fight kangaxx in his original form , he'll be easy, as he cat hurt you with magic.
Once he transforms .. and only AFTER he transforms into a demi-lich,
cast PfU-scroll on yourself and whack him .. hell fall easy and fast.

Mage:
Same tactic for the PfM and PfU -scrolls .. but now memorize a lot of MMM's ( lvl 3 ) ... He'll fall quite easily that way.

As a mage its very possible to solo him without the help of scrolls .. by casting -Spell immunity: Abjuration-, this will negate the imprisonment spell the Demi-lich casts .. ( actually its a spell called "trap the soul" , but it works the same as imprisonment)
Now casting MMM's and Improved Haste will finish him off .. improved haste is very important, since the Demi-lich regenerates and flees sometimes.

For all other Liches, Daystar works great for a fighter
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