Iraq to destroy banned missiles... - Page 3

Ronn_Bman · 03-03-2003, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moiraine:
I fart in your general direction!

This is the classic line of all classic lines.

Thoran · 03-03-2003, 11:39 AM

"Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of eldeberries!"

"Now run away, or I shall taunt you again!"
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Sir Taliesin · 03-03-2003, 04:21 PM

Now wait just a dang minute here! Is this a Monty Python thread or an "America at War --War with Iraq" thread. (Slaps everyone up the side of the head) Get back to the subject at hand! (DAMN! I could be a mod!

)

As I recall it was the United Nations that set up the state of Israel, not the US. They have been our closest allie in the region since. Of course we are going to support them! We support Saudi Arabia, Jordon, and Egypt too!

Moiraine · 03-03-2003, 04:42 PM

Sorry, Mister T., I tried to answer Despicado's remark in the most positive way.

Wutang · 03-04-2003, 03:50 PM

Did these missile ranges appear in the report that Iraq gave to the inspectors back in Nov? or did the UN inspectors find these by surprise inspections?

Saddam probably doesn't know everything he has in stock but I would think he would at least know about these missiles and their ranges. Missiles are a pretty big and important asset.

Makes you wonder if he just isn't volunteering information until a UN inspector finds something wrong.

Kind of like going through an IRS audit

[ 03-04-2003, 03:51 PM: Message edited by: Wutang ]

Sir Taliesin · 03-04-2003, 04:29 PM

They were declared in the report. The Iraqis put them in the report because they didn't think the inspectors would challenge them. I don't think the inspectors have actually found anything unless the Iraqi's wanted them too!

Wutang · 03-04-2003, 04:53 PM

Heh acting surprised is always a good trait to have. I'm sure all the Iraqi base commanders have been thoroughly trained to do that.

Ronn_Bman · 03-04-2003, 06:13 PM

The Iraqis have had these missiles in the planning stage since '93 or so. The UN inspectors were aware of them, but the Iraqis were told not to change the plans or these missiles would violate the UN mandates.

The Iraqis changed the diameter of the missiles allowing them to carry more payload, more fuel, and larger engines.

The Iraqis added larger engines. Engines with 5 times the lift capabilities of those on the drawing board they'd been warned not to change. These engines not only allow the missiles to carry larger payloads (which the Iraqis had been warned about), they allowed them to carry more fuel, and to go farther.

Even TODAY the Iraqis claim these missiles do not violate the UN mandates, despite having been told that any changes to those original plans would be a violation, despite knowingly making the changes, and despite the weapons inspectors reports. Oh yeah, they're cooperating all right.

03-03-2003, 04:21 PM	#23
Sir Taliesin Silver Dragon Join Date: March 4, 2001 Location: Knoxville, TN USA Age: 62 Posts: 1,641	Now wait just a dang minute here! Is this a Monty Python thread or an "America at War --War with Iraq" thread. (Slaps everyone up the side of the head) Get back to the subject at hand! (DAMN! I could be a mod! ) As I recall it was the United Nations that set up the state of Israel, not the US. They have been our closest allie in the region since. Of course we are going to support them! We support Saudi Arabia, Jordon, and Egypt too! __________________ Sir Taliesin<br /><br />Hello... Good bye.

03-03-2003, 04:42 PM	#24
Moiraine Anubis Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Up in the Freedomland Alps Age: 61 Posts: 2,474	Sorry, Mister T., I tried to answer Despicado's remark in the most positive way. __________________ [img]\"http://grumble.free.fr/img/romuald.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br /><br />The missing link between ape and man is us.

03-04-2003, 03:50 PM	#25
Wutang Manshoon Join Date: February 3, 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 206	Did these missile ranges appear in the report that Iraq gave to the inspectors back in Nov? or did the UN inspectors find these by surprise inspections? Saddam probably doesn't know everything he has in stock but I would think he would at least know about these missiles and their ranges. Missiles are a pretty big and important asset. Makes you wonder if he just isn't volunteering information until a UN inspector finds something wrong. Kind of like going through an IRS audit [ 03-04-2003, 03:51 PM: Message edited by: Wutang ] __________________ Hula dancer lover!

03-04-2003, 04:29 PM	#26
Sir Taliesin Silver Dragon Join Date: March 4, 2001 Location: Knoxville, TN USA Age: 62 Posts: 1,641	They were declared in the report. The Iraqis put them in the report because they didn't think the inspectors would challenge them. I don't think the inspectors have actually found anything unless the Iraqi's wanted them too! __________________ Sir Taliesin<br /><br />Hello... Good bye.

03-04-2003, 04:53 PM	#27
Wutang Manshoon Join Date: February 3, 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 206	Heh acting surprised is always a good trait to have. I'm sure all the Iraqi base commanders have been thoroughly trained to do that. __________________ Hula dancer lover!

03-03-2003, 11:39 AM	#22
Thoran Galvatron Join Date: January 10, 2002 Location: Upstate NY Age: 57 Posts: 2,109	"Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of eldeberries!" "Now run away, or I shall taunt you again!" [img]smile.gif[/img]

03-04-2003, 06:13 PM	#28
Ronn_Bman Zartan Join Date: March 11, 2001 Location: North Carolina USA Age: 58 Posts: 5,177	The Iraqis have had these missiles in the planning stage since '93 or so. The UN inspectors were aware of them, but the Iraqis were told not to change the plans or these missiles would violate the UN mandates. The Iraqis changed the diameter of the missiles allowing them to carry more payload, more fuel, and larger engines. The Iraqis added larger engines. Engines with 5 times the lift capabilities of those on the drawing board they'd been warned not to change. These engines not only allow the missiles to carry larger payloads (which the Iraqis had been warned about), they allowed them to carry more fuel, and to go farther. Even TODAY the Iraqis claim these missiles do not violate the UN mandates, despite having been told that any changes to those original plans would be a violation, despite knowingly making the changes, and despite the weapons inspectors reports. Oh yeah, they're cooperating all right. __________________ [img]\"http://home.carolina.rr.com/orthanc/pics/Spinning%20Hammer%20Sig%20Pic.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

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