First person shooters...

[JR Jansen]

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Originally posted by Neb:


Now JR, I would have to disagree with you there, for example Alien Versus Predator 1&2, play as an alien and fast reflexes won't be able to save you, you need to THINK, charge ahead relying on speed and reflexes and you're one dead critter.

Of course HAVING fast reflexes is still an advantage.

Other games, such as Counterstrike CAN be won purely by reflexes and speed, but if you think about what you do before you do it you'll find that your enemies fall a lot easier.

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That is why i said that exeptions exist. Anyway what do you need to think about ? The kind of gun you use ? Because that would be the only thing that you need to think about and maybe some strategie as to choose from wich side you attack but what it ultimatly comes down to is to hit your keyboard as fast as you can to get as much shots out as you can.

[WOLFGIR]

Well personally I like the FPS games alot!
Maybe a violent streak eh! (Yeah, like a mile wide or something )
But the thing is that even though you kill like say a hundred people in one game and the poor dude you are playing with should pay for pharmaceptics for the rest of his institutional life, it´s not the killing in itself but the beating of an opponent.

Also as JR Jansen said, you don´t need to use your "brain" well, not the logic part as much, but you use alot of other parts as reactions, calculations and let the rest of your brain get some time off which is for me much neede since I use it daily looking and thinking over new things, which makes it a great deal fun to go blasting off in imaturity land!

BAsic line, it´s fun and you don´t have to play for an hour to keep up with a story or something, you can play for twenty minutes or so and be satisfied. And mny of the new shooters add more realism, abit more of problem solving or historical factors and more mission like situations. Tem play over LAN and so on.

And for game to be dangerous or something, people having problem dicerning a game from reality should be put in a bootcamp and see how fun it really is.. Then they would know that shooters are best used on a safe puter and not in reality


Oki, after this little trip back to your first question LInk!
Yep, mny shooters, it all goes in waves, there have been alot (and still are) RPG games on the hitlists and also the FPS and management games were really big last couple of years and very few shooters. Now the FPS are back but this year we are looking at have alot of heavy titles from most of the genres comming. A year to be brooke and miss more of RL!

[Neb]

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Originally posted by JR Jansen:


That is why i said that exeptions exist. Anyway what do you need to think about ? The kind of gun you use ? Because that would be the only thing that you need to think about and maybe some strategie as to choose from wich side you attack but what it ultimatly comes down to is to hit your keyboard as fast as you can to get as much shots out as you can.

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Part of it is that as an alien you don't HAVE any guns, you can only attack at close range and it takes nothing more than a few concentrated bursts from a rifle to end your life.

Luckily you have the ability to climb on walls and high speed to save you, but a frontal assault will almost always result in heavy injuries/death, so therefore you need to sneak around them, find the perfect angle for attack, know who to attack first, who you can safely ignore.

Then there's just the entire thing about being able to keep yourself aware of where you are when you can change from running across the floor to running across the ceiling in seconds, that can be a bit of a challenge as well.

At least, this is how I see the game.

[JR Jansen]

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Originally posted by Neb:


Part of it is that as an alien you don't HAVE any guns, you can only attack at close range and it takes nothing more than a few concentrated bursts from a rifle to end your life.

Luckily you have the ability to climb on walls and high speed to save you, but a frontal assault will almost always result in heavy injuries/death, so therefore you need to sneak around them, find the perfect angle for attack, know who to attack first, who you can safely ignore.

Then there's just the entire thing about being able to keep yourself aware of where you are when you can change from running across the floor to running across the ceiling in seconds, that can be a bit of a challenge as well.

At least, this is how I see the game.

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As i said. That the only things that you need to think about is wich gun to use and, in this example, from where to attack. What it ultimately evolves to is to kill everything you see and changing from walking on the floor to walking on the ceiling and not get lost. Doesn't that mean that again you count on your reflexes to get to the ultimate goal ? Which is kill everything you see ?

[WOLFGIR]

JR.. Just one question?
What kind of games do you like?
That you don´t like FPS is pretty obvious!

[/)eathKiller]

Halo's pretty freakin' good...

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Originally posted by /)eathKiller:
Halo's pretty freakin' good...

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I fear that Halo (due to its early release) will defeat Planetside.. Damn.. They both look great!

[Neb]

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Originally posted by JR Jansen:


As i said. That the only things that you need to think about is wich gun to use and, in this example, from where to attack. What it ultimately evolves to is to kill everything you see and changing from walking on the floor to walking on the ceiling and not get lost. Doesn't that mean that again you count on your reflexes to get to the ultimate goal ? Which is kill everything you see ?

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No, no, no, you cannot count on your reflexes all the way through, at some point you have to THINK as well, there are some times where your reflexes will not be able to save you, and other points where you'd have to have superhuman reflexes to make it through with a careful battle plan.

Of course, it doesn't require as much strategy as an RTS or TBS.

[Sir Kenyth]

I find that most people who don't like FPS games simply can't play them well and get frustrated too easily.

I mean, most games that are combat oriented include killing everything enemy, including the BG series!

Nya, nya! Thhhhppppppttttt!!!

[Thoran]

Typically these days first person shooter solo games have puzzles to solve, so that breaks up the "shoot everything that moves" mode of operation. And multiplayer is a whole new experience. You get team operation, offensive and defensive tactics... strategic positioning (where is the best weapons and armor, how to get constant supplies with minimum risk, if there's powerups how do you get those, etc...)

Games like Tribes 2 add sophisticated base design and vehicles to the mix. Winning teams can have very sophisticated strategy and pre-planned tactics. Definitely not as brainless as you might think.