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CerebroDragon · 06-06-2005, 01:06 PM

Overhearing conversations isn't anything new in the CRPG world. You can do it in Ultima VII which was released way back in 1992, which I'd regard as being much more revolutionary than any of the aforementioned games, despite the fact that its an isometric game. Furthermore, it also had NPC schedules where people would work, have breaks, go home or go to the pub and then go to sleep and start all over again the next day.

I'm also enthusiastic about possibly getting my paws on the Gothic games, which I've heard only glowing reports about. However, try not to give away any spoilers on the games if possible - though its good to hear its fans talk about it!
Being the chronlogical obsessive that I am, I'll be playing them in order too as I've done as closely as possible with the Ultima series.

I just hope Oblivion isn't as infuriatingly buggy as my experience of Morrowind was. I suffered far too many random freezes and CTDS - not that it really got too far in the way of the immersion factor.

So what first person game have you decided to go for, Huwge? Any more luck with Arx? Gather your knowledge well and you'll be rewarded!

Cheers,
Cerebrodragon

P.S
Another first person cRPG series I forgot to mention in my initial post were Lands of Lore I-III. I'm actually attempting to make inroads into the second game at the moment, although it is definitely not going to come near to the classic Eye of Beholder like dungeon adventure amalgam that was the original.

the mighty stamar · 06-06-2005, 10:03 PM

Oh its very difficult to find gothic for sale in the us market good luck on that.

There was also a german language version of an expansion for gothic 2 called night of the raven which I have heard is very cool. People used a user made tool to convert it to work with the us version ( only in text not spoken) although I did not.

I have heard that night of the raven is finally coming out in english though too.

Yes Gothic used ultima nine as some inspiration as every person has a job a place to sleep a daily routine etc. It was sort of like ultima nine made more polished.

[ 06-06-2005, 10:03 PM: Message edited by: the mighty stamar ]

Griefmaker · 06-07-2005, 01:00 AM

It was more like what Ultima 9 should have been. I was one of those Ultima fans who was dissapointed with the way Ultima 9 turned out

Mighty Stamar is right, though, it is pretty hard to find Gothic 1. Gothic 2 is easy to find on the internet, but #1 is more elusive.

Huwge · 06-07-2005, 01:15 PM

Wow, I didnt expect this much discussion from my post. Gothic 2 sounds interesting. I wasnt very impressed with Morrowind. I played it but it seemed too empty for me (probably cause I was playing EQ at the time too). I'm trying out Sacred at the moment while I make a decision. If I see Arx cheap enough I may see if it will run

Thanks again for the helpful posts

Dajjer · 06-08-2005, 06:28 PM

Until Gothic 2 came along, Land of Lore was my second favorite CRPG. And I played LOL 1 before they added the multi media stuff. A great great game that was brought down a tad by its less than great successors. LOL 2 and LOL3 were okay games but clearly not in the league of their progenitor.

BTW, Cerebro, I think my gothic 2 comments were pretty generic and there is no way I ruined anything for you. Both games have a bunch of population centers and unless you played both game you'd have no idea what I'm talking about. But I hope I didn't cause you too much stress and you hurry up and get and play the games.

And Huwge, another game that could go in your waiting to make a decision queue is Divine Divinity. It's overhead like Sacred but with what I believe far better game play. and I liked Sacred a lot.

Arx Fatalis should be cheap. Amazon has it anywhere from 12 bucks and Ebay has it anywhere from a buck all the way up to 30 bucks. But be careful because there is an X-box verions out there.

But Arx is very good game and when the sequel comes out I will be there on day one. The only thing I didn't like about Arx is that it had no background music. However, the atmospheric sound effects in the dungeon area are some of the most creepy ever done with an RPG.

read some of the review on Amazon.com and that will give you a pretty good feel for the game.

Huwge · 06-09-2005, 10:13 AM

Thanks for the reply Dajjer. I've played trough Divine Divinity. Was a bit of a let down at the end, the boss was way too easy to defeat, plenty of good quests till then though, kept me going for a while

06-06-2005, 01:06 PM	#21
CerebroDragon Red Wizard of Thay Join Date: March 2, 2003 Location: Ballarat, Australia. Age: 46 Posts: 878	Overhearing conversations isn't anything new in the CRPG world. You can do it in Ultima VII which was released way back in 1992, which I'd regard as being much more revolutionary than any of the aforementioned games, despite the fact that its an isometric game. Furthermore, it also had NPC schedules where people would work, have breaks, go home or go to the pub and then go to sleep and start all over again the next day. I'm also enthusiastic about possibly getting my paws on the Gothic games, which I've heard only glowing reports about. However, try not to give away any spoilers on the games if possible - though its good to hear its fans talk about it! Being the chronlogical obsessive that I am, I'll be playing them in order too as I've done as closely as possible with the Ultima series. I just hope Oblivion isn't as infuriatingly buggy as my experience of Morrowind was. I suffered far too many random freezes and CTDS - not that it really got too far in the way of the immersion factor. So what first person game have you decided to go for, Huwge? Any more luck with Arx? Gather your knowledge well and you'll be rewarded! Cheers, Cerebrodragon P.S Another first person cRPG series I forgot to mention in my initial post were Lands of Lore I-III. I'm actually attempting to make inroads into the second game at the moment, although it is definitely not going to come near to the classic Eye of Beholder like dungeon adventure amalgam that was the original. __________________ Diddledy High, Diddledy Low, Come Brave Blood Sheep, You've a goodly way to go. - Brilhasti Ap Tarj

06-07-2005, 01:00 AM	#23
Griefmaker The Magister Join Date: January 29, 2005 Location: Chico, CA Age: 45 Posts: 141	It was more like what Ultima 9 should have been. I was one of those Ultima fans who was dissapointed with the way Ultima 9 turned out Mighty Stamar is right, though, it is pretty hard to find Gothic 1. Gothic 2 is easy to find on the internet, but #1 is more elusive. __________________ I am a peon.

06-07-2005, 01:15 PM	#24
Huwge Dungeon Master Join Date: March 13, 2005 Location: UK Posts: 91	Wow, I didnt expect this much discussion from my post. Gothic 2 sounds interesting. I wasnt very impressed with Morrowind. I played it but it seemed too empty for me (probably cause I was playing EQ at the time too). I'm trying out Sacred at the moment while I make a decision. If I see Arx cheap enough I may see if it will run Thanks again for the helpful posts __________________ Huwge

06-09-2005, 10:13 AM	#26
Huwge Dungeon Master Join Date: March 13, 2005 Location: UK Posts: 91	Thanks for the reply Dajjer. I've played trough Divine Divinity. Was a bit of a let down at the end, the boss was way too easy to defeat, plenty of good quests till then though, kept me going for a while __________________ Huwge

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06-06-2005, 10:03 PM	#22
the mighty stamar Avatar Join Date: February 12, 2003 Location: hades Age: 55 Posts: 583	Oh its very difficult to find gothic for sale in the us market good luck on that. There was also a german language version of an expansion for gothic 2 called night of the raven which I have heard is very cool. People used a user made tool to convert it to work with the us version ( only in text not spoken) although I did not. I have heard that night of the raven is finally coming out in english though too. Yes Gothic used ultima nine as some inspiration as every person has a job a place to sleep a daily routine etc. It was sort of like ultima nine made more polished. [ 06-06-2005, 10:03 PM: Message edited by: the mighty stamar ]

06-08-2005, 06:28 PM	#25
Dajjer The Magister Join Date: November 24, 2001 Location: California Age: 75 Posts: 121	Until Gothic 2 came along, Land of Lore was my second favorite CRPG. And I played LOL 1 before they added the multi media stuff. A great great game that was brought down a tad by its less than great successors. LOL 2 and LOL3 were okay games but clearly not in the league of their progenitor. BTW, Cerebro, I think my gothic 2 comments were pretty generic and there is no way I ruined anything for you. Both games have a bunch of population centers and unless you played both game you'd have no idea what I'm talking about. But I hope I didn't cause you too much stress and you hurry up and get and play the games. And Huwge, another game that could go in your waiting to make a decision queue is Divine Divinity. It's overhead like Sacred but with what I believe far better game play. and I liked Sacred a lot. Arx Fatalis should be cheap. Amazon has it anywhere from 12 bucks and Ebay has it anywhere from a buck all the way up to 30 bucks. But be careful because there is an X-box verions out there. But Arx is very good game and when the sequel comes out I will be there on day one. The only thing I didn't like about Arx is that it had no background music. However, the atmospheric sound effects in the dungeon area are some of the most creepy ever done with an RPG. read some of the review on Amazon.com and that will give you a pretty good feel for the game.

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