What the hell - Page 3

MiZ-DevAngel · 02-26-2002, 08:05 PM

You can actually stop your alingment from changing but it needs a thief in your party. You can always pickpocket the tear from the dijini in hell. Easy

Luvian · 02-26-2002, 08:37 PM

You wanting to change your aligment back to good with an hack program is not acepting the consequence of your action.

And if you did slap me in real life I would just smile and ask for another.

Morgan_Corbesant · 02-26-2002, 09:07 PM

well, im having the EXACT same problem. i started out as chaotic good, and now im lawful evil. wtf, i saved the guy from the selfish demon, gave the sword to the genie, etc. i didnt do anything evil as far as i can tell, and now im lawful evil. and yes, i tried shadowkeeper, but it just doesnt work. maybe ill just create an item that does it for me then. or ill just start a new character, cheat him to his current status, and say screw the 1000 or so kills on my record, ill just have to do it all over again, lol.

Yggdrasil · 02-26-2002, 09:11 PM

I don't think alignment matters much in ToA; to wit, my first time through was as an evil dualled fighter/druid (killed the genie in hell). Druid classes are supposed to be true neutral, but my PC suffered no loss of abilities. Even after that, I still played as a 'good' character. Didn't affect my game in the slightest.

PS - Using cheats (ie Shadowkeeper) would probably be considered an 'evil' act. It seems to me that being 'evil' is simply to be an amoral opportunist.

Luvian · 02-27-2002, 01:04 AM

I don't understand... why can't you guys use shadowkeeper? It work just fine for me.

Lady Blue03 · 02-27-2002, 01:06 AM

*sighs* Luvaian, ur only upsetting yourself. Piece of advice: if you say ur not trying to flame some one, then dont 'flame' them. I really dont see why your dragging this out. I didnt make this post to have a lecture on morality by you. Besides, its just a game...Dont make such a big deal about it...i already apologized for whatever i did. I still respect your words, but frankly, im losing my respect for you in general. Dont turn this into a negative thing...oh wait, you already did...

Dundee Slaytern · 02-27-2002, 02:06 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Morgan_Corbesant:
well, im having the EXACT same problem. i started out as chaotic good, and now im lawful evil. wtf, i saved the guy from the selfish demon, gave the sword to the genie, etc. i didnt do anything evil as far as i can tell, and now im lawful evil. and yes, i tried shadowkeeper, but it just doesnt work. maybe ill just create an item that does it for me then. or ill just start a new character, cheat him to his current status, and say screw the 1000 or so kills on my record, ill just have to do it all over again, lol.

Just a question... for the Trial of Pride, did you kill the Dragon?

Luvian · 02-27-2002, 02:45 AM

quote:
You wanting to change your aligment back to good with an hack program is not acepting the consequence of your action.

I am not sure why I posted that, just ignore it.

quote:
And if you did slap me in real life I would just smile and ask for another.

As for that part, it was not a flame, I was just stating what I would do if someone slaped me. It does not have to be you.

I will ask again: What is the problem with ShadowKeeper? Why can't some people use it?

Whailor · 02-27-2002, 04:41 AM

If someone would slap me in real-life one one cheeck, I'd slap them back on their both cheeks, kick their b*** and also their dog. Don't believe in all this "turn another cheek" thingie Lady Blue. It doesn't work. It's a cruel world out there, and Hammurab's laws work only (tooth for tooth, eye for an eye)

Now, regarding this issue - no one is flaming you or slapping you or something. They are just pointing out that the reason for alignment change is your own little evil act and that's it. Best way to deal with it is to live with it. When someone in my party dies, I don't reload. I resurect them, or waltz to temple if needed - after all, it happened in the legit way. Well, unless my main char dies, then I have no choice but to reload.. In any case, you did the act which changed your alignment, but still, why not to move on with it? Yeah some NPC might whine a bit more, but all in all it's all perfectly doable even with that alignment. You can move on and finish the game. I don't know though if it will give you some evil ending though, because of that.. Someone might know.

Luvian · 02-27-2002, 01:09 PM

Just so you know, I would not ask for another slap because of that bible thing. I would do it for... other reason.

02-26-2002, 08:37 PM	#22
Luvian Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 27, 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Age: 44 Posts: 6,766	You wanting to change your aligment back to good with an hack program is not acepting the consequence of your action. And if you did slap me in real life I would just smile and ask for another. __________________ Once upon a time in Canada...

02-26-2002, 09:07 PM	#23
Morgan_Corbesant Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 19, 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 47 Posts: 1,224	well, im having the EXACT same problem. i started out as chaotic good, and now im lawful evil. wtf, i saved the guy from the selfish demon, gave the sword to the genie, etc. i didnt do anything evil as far as i can tell, and now im lawful evil. and yes, i tried shadowkeeper, but it just doesnt work. maybe ill just create an item that does it for me then. or ill just start a new character, cheat him to his current status, and say screw the 1000 or so kills on my record, ill just have to do it all over again, lol. __________________ Morgan Corbesant, Elven BladeSinger, Captain of the army of the Seldarine<br /><br /> [img]\"http://www.rleeermey.com/images/linkbanners/usmcredwhiteblue.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br />Protector of Elves<br />Slayer of Orcs<br /><br />ALL YOUR BASE, ARE BELONG TO US!!!<br />I DON\'T FIGHT FOR HONOR, I FIGHT TO WIN!<br />\"One who is a samurai must before all things keep constantly in mind, by day and by night...the fact that he has to die\". <br />-Daidoji Yuzan-<br />16th Century

02-27-2002, 01:04 AM	#25
Luvian Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 27, 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Age: 44 Posts: 6,766	I don't understand... why can't you guys use shadowkeeper? It work just fine for me. __________________ Once upon a time in Canada...

02-27-2002, 01:06 AM	#26
Lady Blue03 Xanathar Thieves Guild Join Date: January 18, 2002 Age: 39 Posts: 4,557	sighs Luvaian, ur only upsetting yourself. Piece of advice: if you say ur not trying to flame some one, then dont 'flame' them. I really dont see why your dragging this out. I didnt make this post to have a lecture on morality by you. Besides, its just a game...Dont make such a big deal about it...i already apologized for whatever i did. I still respect your words, but frankly, im losing my respect for you in general. Dont turn this into a negative thing...oh wait, you already did... __________________ Yep I'm still lurking!

02-27-2002, 02:06 AM	#27
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	quote: Originally posted by Morgan_Corbesant: well, im having the EXACT same problem. i started out as chaotic good, and now im lawful evil. wtf, i saved the guy from the selfish demon, gave the sword to the genie, etc. i didnt do anything evil as far as i can tell, and now im lawful evil. and yes, i tried shadowkeeper, but it just doesnt work. maybe ill just create an item that does it for me then. or ill just start a new character, cheat him to his current status, and say screw the 1000 or so kills on my record, ill just have to do it all over again, lol. Just a question... for the Trial of Pride, did you kill the Dragon?

02-26-2002, 08:05 PM	#21
MiZ-DevAngel Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: October 17, 2001 Location: Asylum in your Mind Posts: 11	You can actually stop your alingment from changing but it needs a thief in your party. You can always pickpocket the tear from the dijini in hell. Easy

02-26-2002, 09:11 PM	#24
Yggdrasil Dungeon Master Join Date: November 26, 2001 Location: Home Posts: 94	I don't think alignment matters much in ToA; to wit, my first time through was as an evil dualled fighter/druid (killed the genie in hell). Druid classes are supposed to be true neutral, but my PC suffered no loss of abilities. Even after that, I still played as a 'good' character. Didn't affect my game in the slightest. PS - Using cheats (ie Shadowkeeper) would probably be considered an 'evil' act. It seems to me that being 'evil' is simply to be an amoral opportunist.

02-27-2002, 02:45 AM	#28
Luvian Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 27, 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Age: 44 Posts: 6,766	quote: You wanting to change your aligment back to good with an hack program is not acepting the consequence of your action. I am not sure why I posted that, just ignore it. quote: And if you did slap me in real life I would just smile and ask for another. As for that part, it was not a flame, I was just stating what I would do if someone slaped me. It does not have to be you. I will ask again: What is the problem with ShadowKeeper? Why can't some people use it? __________________ Once upon a time in Canada...

02-27-2002, 04:41 AM	#29
Whailor Avatar Join Date: May 16, 2001 Location: Estonia Posts: 532	If someone would slap me in real-life one one cheeck, I'd slap them back on their both cheeks, kick their b*** and also their dog. Don't believe in all this "turn another cheek" thingie Lady Blue. It doesn't work. It's a cruel world out there, and Hammurab's laws work only (tooth for tooth, eye for an eye) Now, regarding this issue - no one is flaming you or slapping you or something. They are just pointing out that the reason for alignment change is your own little evil act and that's it. Best way to deal with it is to live with it. When someone in my party dies, I don't reload. I resurect them, or waltz to temple if needed - after all, it happened in the legit way. Well, unless my main char dies, then I have no choice but to reload.. In any case, you did the act which changed your alignment, but still, why not to move on with it? Yeah some NPC might whine a bit more, but all in all it's all perfectly doable even with that alignment. You can move on and finish the game. I don't know though if it will give you some evil ending though, because of that.. Someone might know. __________________

02-27-2002, 01:09 PM	#30
Luvian Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 27, 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Age: 44 Posts: 6,766	Just so you know, I would not ask for another slap because of that bible thing. I would do it for... other reason. __________________ Once upon a time in Canada...

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