This Balduran Mess

[Dundee Slaytern]

Ah-ha! What about a Fighter->Druid then? It can most certainly use the Helm, the Cloak, the Armour, the Sword, and the Shield! Yes I know it sounds absurd, but what say thee?



ADD] Although on hindsight... he could have been a Fighter->Thief too.

[ 04-25-2003, 01:30 PM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

[SixOfSpades]

Druids can't use Long Swords, Dundee. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I've never heard anything saying that Balduran was charismatic, and certainly not any mention of spellcasting abilities. I would go with either Fighter or Fighter/Thief, as I doubt he was godly enough in power to achieve UAI.

I've seen hints that he was a Dwarf, but I can't bring to mind any specific evidence. Perhaps somebody would be willing to root through all the Balduran material contained in ToSC, and see if that sheds any new light on things?

[Imrahil]

Originally posted by Butterfingers: Balduran is a Dwarf.... It can not be made any plainer... Look at his helm for crying out loud. Also, there is the fact that it mentions that Balduran is a Dwarf...

Balduran could just as easily be a Barbarian. The whole "kin & clan" thing works for them as well.

If we're just going on looks, his Helm looks a lot like Wulfgar's helm on the cover of the various Icewind books.

If we're going on description, "The fabled helm of Balduran, legendary founder of Baldur's Gate, has long been rumored to wield powerful protective magic. The exact nature of this magic, however, has not yet been determined." ummm... lends itself to practically any theory.

- Imrahil

[Dundee Slaytern]

Originally posted by SixOfSpades: Druids can't use Long Swords, Dundee. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Even when dualled from a Fighter? Just doublechecking. If true, I will have to add this in the dualclass FAQ.

[Dundee Slaytern]

Originally posted by Imrahil: Balduran could just as easily be a Barbarian. The whole "kin & clan" thing works for them as well. ~~ - Imrahil

He could not have been a Barbarian for one simple reason,

Plate of Balduran.

[Athranq]

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern: quote: Originally posted by Imrahil: Balduran could just as easily be a Barbarian. The whole "kin & clan" thing works for them as well. ~~ - Imrahil

He could not have been a Barbarian for one simple reason,

Plate of Balduran. [/QUOTE]Methinks Imrahil was referring to "Barbarian" as a race (or human sub-race if you like), not the class.

'Ranq

[Luvian]

Ok, look like it's time for a Dungeon Master to step in.

Yes, Dwarves as a race don't usually like water, but it does not mean all dwarves are afraid of it, I would hate to see how you guys would play a D&D campaign if you all follow such stereotypes. What about Drizzt? Aren't drows supposed to be evil?

And what about that dwarf in the cleric quintet who became a Druid?

As for weapons, a small race should only be able to use a medium size weapon with two hands, and should not be able to use a weapon any bigger. If Balduran was a dwarf, he was probably carrying his shield strapped to his back, and only used it when facing beholders and using another weapon than his longsword. Who would want to use all the time a shield that lower your strength anyway?

But the game engine is limited. In reality, all armor and items should have a size to them. A dwarf can't use a human plate mail, and human can't use a dwarven platemail. And small creature should have the appropriate weapon restriction, but it was not implemented.

Don't forget that Balduran was created for the D&D Forgotten Realm setting, not the Baldur's Gate video game. in the pen and paper game, he would be using the weapon as it should.

Maybe in my Forgotten Realm boxed set they would tell if he is really a dwarf or not, but it's packed somewhere with other boxes, and I don't really want to go dig it up. I might look if no one else can find the info.

[Raistlin Majere]

I must admit, i too always saw Balduran to be a tall human in a shining full plate. but now it actually makes sence that he would be a dwarf. i never really had any doubt as to him being anything other than a fighter, though.

[Raistlin Majere]

Originally posted by TaSSaDaR: Apart from Tolkien, Dragonlance dwarf (the friend of Giltanas(spelling?) uhh... forgot his name!) was veery afraid of crossing a lake by a boat. And he mentioned that the fear of water is common among their clan. So, I doubt that someday a dwarf can become a pirate... Of course, thats Forgotten Realms, not Dargonlance, but still..

Flint Fireforge? Yes, he is a very typical dwarf, isnt he?(one of my favourite characters)

[StigTC]

Originally posted by Luvian: As for weapons, a small race should only be able to use a medium size weapon with two hands, and should not be able to use a weapon any bigger. If Balduran was a dwarf, he was probably carrying his shield strapped to his back, and only used it when facing beholders and using another weapon than his longsword. Who would want to use all the time a shield that lower your strength anyway?

But aren't a dwarf a size medium and not a small??
That's the setup in NWN anyway, but then again, I should know betten then to trust Bioware on anything remotely D&D'ish.