AntiKangaxx Weapon? - Page 3

Annatar · 02-04-2003, 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by SixOfSpades:

quote:
Originally posted by Eternal:
all i used was the improved mace
and spellimunity on korgan

Spell Immunity can only protect the caster, and Korgan definitely cannot cast it. You must be referring to his Enrage ability. (Note: A Berserker's Rage will grant temporary immunity to Imprisonment, while a Barbarian's will not.)

Butterfingers, I may be wrong on this (as I've never used a Protection from Magic scroll), but it's been my understanding that to use a PfM scroll on Kangaxx's first form (his Lich form) is to waste it. True, he cannot cast any of his spells at you through the globe of Anti-Magic, but once you "kill" his Lich form, it is removed and replaced with the Demi-Lich form--which is *NOT* under a Protection from Magic spell, and thus can spit Imprisonments to his heart's content. To block the Imprisonments, you must use the Scroll on the Demi-Lich form.

I just wacked Kangaxx a few hours ago, myself. Rather easy, although we were in Chapter 6. My Spell Immunity front-liners were Melodia (Bard) with the Dragon's Breath, Jan with Cutthroat, and Nalia with Boneblade. Over in the corner were Anomen with the Sling of Everard, Minsc with the Gesen Bow, another Minsc (Vhailor's Helm) with another Gesen Bow, and Jaheira with the Cloak of the Stars. Who needs Protection scrolls or the MoD+2?

[ADD:] The Ring of the Ram is indeed very useful, but I ignored it for this fight, which was a good thing: I discovered a very handy tactic for the Ring against the Twisted Rune, which we took out directly after Kangaxx.[/QUOTE]Six please englighten us with this VERY usefull tactics

, My self had no problem facing those freaks at the Twisted ruins but i'm curious what you mean with ''a handy tactic'' as I said... Enlighten us

Edit: speaking of the Ring of the ram, because it is indeed powerfull but I only see it as a ultimate resort for things that just need a little more damage to fall to the ground... like 2 know what other things I can do with it

[ 02-04-2003, 05:20 PM: Message edited by: Annatar ]

Butterfingers · 02-04-2003, 05:58 PM

Six, did you read my Solo Enchanter vs Twited Rune thread? I gave a VERY good use for it in there. Perhaps that is what you are hinting at?

SixOfSpades · 02-05-2003, 08:23 PM

Annatar, there are always lots of ways to "do a little more damage to make things fall to the ground," which is how Butterfingers used it against Vaxall. I prefer to use the Ring of the Ram for its unique qualities: It gets through just about any spell or combat protection, and it knocks the enemy away from you. I needed both of those effects in my fight against the Twisted Rune. Story:

- - -

We were in the Bridge District, peering through an otherwise typical doorway into an inky-black void, when suddenly the Bag of Holding in my backpack yanked me off my balance toward the door. My lover-boy Anomen grabbed me to save me from falling into the yawning blackness, but despite his success, the whole party found themselves driting into another plane.

When we regained our bearings, we saw ourselves to be inside a fancy, narrow hallway with bizarre purple lighting. "Maybe whoever lives here has a really bad complexion?" we thought.
Jan, of course, had a past experience he could relate this to: "You know, I've always wondered about people who liked flames in colors other than the typical red and yellow. My great-uncle Squingus once remarked that he could produce a flame that was four feet long and a bright, virulent blue, but how he managed to create it he never would say."
Happily, it was easy to shut him up this time: "Jan, what we need from you right now is your ability to be silent."
"Oh, right," he said, and straightaway popped into Stealth to better explore the environs.
While he was gone, Jaheira had something constructive to say: "At least we all wound up in the same place. It would be very awkward for each of us to have to find their way back individually."
I agreed, but noted that perhaps we shouldn't be so hasty to try to get back: Maybe being teleported here was a good thing, or at least a situation to turn to our advantage.
Nalia, meanwhile, had discovered that the solid wall behind us was nothing more than a cleverly painted thin sheet of wood, and folded it back to reveal a short set of stairs that led--nowhere. Why would anyone build a staircase with no destination? We were forced to set this question aside as one of the Great Imponderables.
Jan returned from his reconnaisance: "A round room with a big round table. Seven matching chairs, but no dinnerware. No exits, and a terrible taste in wallpaper. Somebody's making some soup, and I didn't smell any turnips at *all* in it. It's a shame the way people have let the culinary arts go completely to waste."
Minsc must still have been peeved about the Boo Incident, for he didn't trust the Gnome at all and went to check it out for himself. Immediately, small flames erupted from where he stood, and leaped to the table. "Minsc, get BACK here!" I called, but too late. A Lich appeared at the center of the table, and informed us of whose headquarters we were in--the Twisted Rune's. Suddenly, I doubted my previous confidence about being able to turn the situation to my advantage.
After pulling Minsc back to the rest of the party (and out of sight of the Lich, Shangalar), I cleared my head. "Okay, they can't see us, so we've got some breathing space. Anomen, let's have some buffing spells--" but my words were cut short when Shangalar teleported right in front of us. Minsc took a mighty swing with his Mace of Disruption, which bounced harmlessly off Shangalar's Protection from Magic Weapons.
Jaheira immediately shouted some advice: "Jan, cast Breach, quickly!"
But Jan responded, "No use, Liches are immune to low-level spells, similar to the way that a griffon can...oh, heck, I'll save that story for later."
Nalia was also quick to assess the situation: "I saw him cast Spell Turning, so no direct-damage spells, people!"
Anomen, heartbroken that his favorite Flail was useless, turned to me: "Ye Gods, Melodia, what do we do NOW?"

What do we do, indeed. A high-level Lich is invincible to our attacks, and is about to finish casting his Symbol:Fear or whatever. Our group is stuck in a cramped corner, the very worst place to get hit with a Meteor Swam or Symbol:Stun, and even if we ran past the Lich, there's no knowing what friends of his may have teleported in with him--and we still don't even know how to get out. STRESS!!! But then it hit me--it had been sitting on my finger this whole time! "Run back to the stairs, everybody!" I shouted, while stepping forward and aiming the full blast of the Ring of the Ram directly into Shangalar's rotted face. POW!! The shock penetrated all of his spell and combat protections, and knocked him clear out of my range of vision. The blow must have dizzied him, as he didn't come back to renew his assault. Ah, peace at last.

I quickly came back to the group. "Okay, Anomen, *now* let's have those buffing spells. And let's conjure up some summons, people." Jan put his Cloak of Non-Detection to good use once more: "Besides the Lich, there's a Beholder, a Vampire, some naked dude, and a Mage who's Invisible right now."
"All right," I said. "Vampires are no problem--Anomen, you'll take him," (nod from Anomen) "the naked guy is probably a Monk, so Minsc, you'll take *him* down. Our worries will be the Beholder and the two spellcasters, so that's where all you summoned critters come in!"
The fearless Kitthix was first to take the hint, and fell instantly to Shangalar's Death Spell. Happily, she can't truly die, so no heartbreak there. Jaheira's twin Fire Elementals were next, and performed well until we discovered that the invisible Mage had a Death Spell too. I was getting mad--I don't like using my allies for cannon fodder! "Ranged weapons, everybody!" I ordered. "We're taking out the Beholder!"
"But what about the Lich?" Nalia asked.
"Don't worry, Nalia, YOU'LL take out the Lich," I replied. "Did we, or did we not just grind Kangaxx into the dust?"
After casting the last summons we had (3 Mordenkainen's Swords), we advanced upon the enemy. Shangalar started casting something, but his combat protections had expired and the Swords were able to distract him. Most of us opened fire upon the Beholder, while Nalia fired off a Horrid Wilting and Anomen prayed for a Firestorm. The Beholder went down, but not before Dominating Anomen. "Jaheira! Ring of Human Influence!" I shouted, but she reported the attempt a failure. So I quickly went to cast Dispel Magic. Just then, the Mordy's Swords got Shangalar to Near Death, but he must have had a Contigency: He suddenly cast Mislead, and was once again Immune to Magic Weapons. But to no avail!--Nalia had another Horrid Wilting memorized, and Anomen had been able to complete his Firestorm, and the big bad Lich went DOWN. Unhappily, the annoying Vampire came up and Level Drained me just as I finished Dispelling Anomen's Domination, but Ano cleared his head and taught Shyressra a lesson or two about picking on his girlfriend. The naked guy, Revanek, turned out not to be a Monk after all, but a Cheap Joke: I was surpised, very few Fighters take that particular kit. Over on the other side of the room, we heard the last enemy casting something, so we ran over there and fired a few Arrows of Ice down her gullet. Silly fool lost her spell, and a few hits from the Frostreaver and the Flail of Ages were enough to seal her fate. I was able to Identify the Staff she carried, and was greatly intrigued by it.
Meanwhile, Jan decided to do something about out former enemies' poor taste in making soup, and tossed in a few ingredients of his own--apparently he has a penchant for Beholder meat, because that's what he tossed in there right before a machine against the wall started making funny noises.....and before we knew it, all of us re-appeared right back in the Bridge District.
"Well," said Jan, "That certainly was fun."
"Yes," replied Minsc, "But Boo does not think we should be too quick to do it again."

Dundee Slaytern · 02-05-2003, 11:39 PM

Quote:

~~ The naked guy, Revanek, turned out not to be a Monk after all, but a Cheap Joke: I was surpised, very few Fighters take that particular kit. ~~

I nearly busted a rib laughing out loud from that statement. [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

Dry humour is one the best forms of humour IMHO.

[ 02-05-2003, 11:45 PM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

Eternal · 02-06-2003, 10:47 AM

heh cool story six.....i actually read all that.

i personally didnt have any trouble on my first run in with the rune's
was done in like 5 minutes,and no reloads... i think i did it after the underdark.

i had korgan and 2 projected images run in the room, when i saw the lich teleport to my real body i quickly ran back , and just did them one by 1, tho that anooying vamp couldnt wait on his turn and came bargin in my corner, after meeting viconia he quickly realised that shangalar was sorta a chump and hed much rather help me.

offcourse when korgan finished the last blow on shang we killed the vamp. :evil:
it took me the longest to figure out what to do with the stew, since i didnt have tob back then, n i didnt spot the eye on the beholder,,,,,,ahh well.

personally i think the staff's sorta lame tho, i mean you can just keep turning invisible
just click on your staff icon n poof your gone again,it sux your permanently invisible.

Eternal · 02-06-2003, 10:49 AM

as for korgan...i didnt mean spell immunity.
i ment protection from magic, for some reason korgan was getting imprisoned despite of his enragedness.....

he also gets the drain icon when wielding the mod+2 ...even tho i have the tob fixpack..... but thas a whole diff matter.....

see ya

SixOfSpades · 02-06-2003, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
Dry humour is one the best forms of humour IMHO.

You might like one of the NPCs I've dreamt up, named Fox Pesdassi. He's an Acolyte (Bard that can cast 9th-level spells) with a terrific Lore score, and he's always making out-of-game references and the like.

In Hell: "It's hideous.....they should have sent a poet! .....Oh, wait, they did."

If you take him to Trademeet and have his fortune told (from Kveroslava), he'll ask her how she gets her information--does she have visions like he does? She'll respond by asking what sort of visions he sees, and he'll answer, "Well, sometimes I see a little red circle appear around someone's feet, and when that happens it means that they don't have very long to live."

Dundee Slaytern · 02-07-2003, 01:19 AM

That is a different kind of humour. I forgot the term, but it is similar to 4th-wall Humour.

Dry Humour is when a character non-chalantly makes a remark that is absurd/hilarious/ironic/etc... and yet seems to be blissfully unaware of it and thinks nothing of it, but his creator( in this case, you) is well aware of.

Dry Humour also applies to a certain extent, sarcasm, but only with a more deadpan delivery. In which you act as though your remark was perfectly normal, even if it is most certainly not.

02-05-2003, 08:23 PM	#23
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 48 Posts: 6,901	Annatar, there are always lots of ways to "do a little more damage to make things fall to the ground," which is how Butterfingers used it against Vaxall. I prefer to use the Ring of the Ram for its unique qualities: It gets through just about any spell or combat protection, and it knocks the enemy away from you. I needed both of those effects in my fight against the Twisted Rune. Story: - - - We were in the Bridge District, peering through an otherwise typical doorway into an inky-black void, when suddenly the Bag of Holding in my backpack yanked me off my balance toward the door. My lover-boy Anomen grabbed me to save me from falling into the yawning blackness, but despite his success, the whole party found themselves driting into another plane. When we regained our bearings, we saw ourselves to be inside a fancy, narrow hallway with bizarre purple lighting. "Maybe whoever lives here has a really bad complexion?" we thought. Jan, of course, had a past experience he could relate this to: "You know, I've always wondered about people who liked flames in colors other than the typical red and yellow. My great-uncle Squingus once remarked that he could produce a flame that was four feet long and a bright, virulent blue, but how he managed to create it he never would say." Happily, it was easy to shut him up this time: "Jan, what we need from you right now is your ability to be silent." "Oh, right," he said, and straightaway popped into Stealth to better explore the environs. While he was gone, Jaheira had something constructive to say: "At least we all wound up in the same place. It would be very awkward for each of us to have to find their way back individually." I agreed, but noted that perhaps we shouldn't be so hasty to try to get back: Maybe being teleported here was a good thing, or at least a situation to turn to our advantage. Nalia, meanwhile, had discovered that the solid wall behind us was nothing more than a cleverly painted thin sheet of wood, and folded it back to reveal a short set of stairs that led--nowhere. Why would anyone build a staircase with no destination? We were forced to set this question aside as one of the Great Imponderables. Jan returned from his reconnaisance: "A round room with a big round table. Seven matching chairs, but no dinnerware. No exits, and a terrible taste in wallpaper. Somebody's making some soup, and I didn't smell any turnips at all in it. It's a shame the way people have let the culinary arts go completely to waste." Minsc must still have been peeved about the Boo Incident, for he didn't trust the Gnome at all and went to check it out for himself. Immediately, small flames erupted from where he stood, and leaped to the table. "Minsc, get BACK here!" I called, but too late. A Lich appeared at the center of the table, and informed us of whose headquarters we were in--the Twisted Rune's. Suddenly, I doubted my previous confidence about being able to turn the situation to my advantage. After pulling Minsc back to the rest of the party (and out of sight of the Lich, Shangalar), I cleared my head. "Okay, they can't see us, so we've got some breathing space. Anomen, let's have some buffing spells--" but my words were cut short when Shangalar teleported right in front of us. Minsc took a mighty swing with his Mace of Disruption, which bounced harmlessly off Shangalar's Protection from Magic Weapons. Jaheira immediately shouted some advice: "Jan, cast Breach, quickly!" But Jan responded, "No use, Liches are immune to low-level spells, similar to the way that a griffon can...oh, heck, I'll save that story for later." Nalia was also quick to assess the situation: "I saw him cast Spell Turning, so no direct-damage spells, people!" Anomen, heartbroken that his favorite Flail was useless, turned to me: "Ye Gods, Melodia, what do we do NOW?" What do we do, indeed. A high-level Lich is invincible to our attacks, and is about to finish casting his Symbol:Fear or whatever. Our group is stuck in a cramped corner, the very worst place to get hit with a Meteor Swam or Symbol:Stun, and even if we ran past the Lich, there's no knowing what friends of his may have teleported in with him--and we still don't even know how to get out. *STRESS!!!* But then it hit me--it had been sitting on my finger this whole time! "Run back to the stairs, everybody!" I shouted, while stepping forward and aiming the full blast of the Ring of the Ram directly into Shangalar's rotted face. POW!! The shock penetrated all of his spell and combat protections, and knocked him clear out of my range of vision. The blow must have dizzied him, as he didn't come back to renew his assault. Ah, peace at last. I quickly came back to the group. "Okay, Anomen, now let's have those buffing spells. And let's conjure up some summons, people." Jan put his Cloak of Non-Detection to good use once more: "Besides the Lich, there's a Beholder, a Vampire, some naked dude, and a Mage who's Invisible right now." "All right," I said. "Vampires are no problem--Anomen, you'll take him," (nod from Anomen) "the naked guy is probably a Monk, so Minsc, you'll take him down. Our worries will be the Beholder and the two spellcasters, so that's where all you summoned critters come in!" The fearless Kitthix was first to take the hint, and fell instantly to Shangalar's Death Spell. Happily, she can't truly die, so no heartbreak there. Jaheira's twin Fire Elementals were next, and performed well until we discovered that the invisible Mage had a Death Spell too. I was getting mad--I don't like using my allies for cannon fodder! "Ranged weapons, everybody!" I ordered. "We're taking out the Beholder!" "But what about the Lich?" Nalia asked. "Don't worry, Nalia, YOU'LL take out the Lich," I replied. "Did we, or did we not just grind Kangaxx into the dust?" After casting the last summons we had (3 Mordenkainen's Swords), we advanced upon the enemy. Shangalar started casting something, but his combat protections had expired and the Swords were able to distract him. Most of us opened fire upon the Beholder, while Nalia fired off a Horrid Wilting and Anomen prayed for a Firestorm. The Beholder went down, but not before Dominating Anomen. "Jaheira! Ring of Human Influence!" I shouted, but she reported the attempt a failure. So I quickly went to cast Dispel Magic. Just then, the Mordy's Swords got Shangalar to Near Death, but he must have had a Contigency: He suddenly cast Mislead, and was once again Immune to Magic Weapons. But to no avail!--Nalia had another Horrid Wilting memorized, and Anomen had been able to complete his Firestorm, and the big bad Lich went DOWN. Unhappily, the annoying Vampire came up and Level Drained me just as I finished Dispelling Anomen's Domination, but Ano cleared his head and taught Shyressra a lesson or two about picking on his girlfriend. The naked guy, Revanek, turned out not to be a Monk after all, but a Cheap Joke: I was surpised, very few Fighters take that particular kit. Over on the other side of the room, we heard the last enemy casting something, so we ran over there and fired a few Arrows of Ice down her gullet. Silly fool lost her spell, and a few hits from the Frostreaver and the Flail of Ages were enough to seal her fate. I was able to Identify the Staff she carried, and was greatly intrigued by it. Meanwhile, Jan decided to do something about out former enemies' poor taste in making soup, and tossed in a few ingredients of his own--apparently he has a penchant for Beholder meat, because that's what he tossed in there right before a machine against the wall started making funny noises.....and before we knew it, all of us re-appeared right back in the Bridge District. "Well," said Jan, "That certainly was fun." "Yes," replied Minsc, "But Boo does not think we should be too quick to do it again." __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

02-06-2003, 10:47 AM	#25
Eternal Manshoon Join Date: January 13, 2003 Location: Holland Age: 40 Posts: 197	heh cool story six.....i actually read all that. i personally didnt have any trouble on my first run in with the rune's was done in like 5 minutes,and no reloads... i think i did it after the underdark. i had korgan and 2 projected images run in the room, when i saw the lich teleport to my real body i quickly ran back , and just did them one by 1, tho that anooying vamp couldnt wait on his turn and came bargin in my corner, after meeting viconia he quickly realised that shangalar was sorta a chump and hed much rather help me. offcourse when korgan finished the last blow on shang we killed the vamp. :evil: it took me the longest to figure out what to do with the stew, since i didnt have tob back then, n i didnt spot the eye on the beholder,,,,,,ahh well. personally i think the staff's sorta lame tho, i mean you can just keep turning invisible just click on your staff icon n poof your gone again,it sux your permanently invisible. __________________ jal zhal nym\'uer ussta kaas, lueth rei ulu ninta talwien !!

02-06-2003, 10:49 AM	#26
Eternal Manshoon Join Date: January 13, 2003 Location: Holland Age: 40 Posts: 197	as for korgan...i didnt mean spell immunity. i ment protection from magic, for some reason korgan was getting imprisoned despite of his enragedness..... he also gets the drain icon when wielding the mod+2 ...even tho i have the tob fixpack..... but thas a whole diff matter..... see ya __________________ jal zhal nym\'uer ussta kaas, lueth rei ulu ninta talwien !!

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02-04-2003, 05:58 PM	#22
Butterfingers Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: November 30, 2002 Location: Five Flagons Inn Posts: 633	Six, did you read my Solo Enchanter vs Twited Rune thread? I gave a VERY good use for it in there. Perhaps that is what you are hinting at?

02-07-2003, 01:19 AM	#28
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	That is a different kind of humour. I forgot the term, but it is similar to 4th-wall Humour. Dry Humour is when a character non-chalantly makes a remark that is absurd/hilarious/ironic/etc... and yet seems to be blissfully unaware of it and thinks nothing of it, but his creator( in this case, you) is well aware of. Dry Humour also applies to a certain extent, sarcasm, but only with a more deadpan delivery. In which you act as though your remark was perfectly normal, even if it is most certainly not.

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