11-01-2004, 10:30 AM | #21 |
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In spite of (and perhaps because of) the additional history you've just passed along, I'd still take it back to repair shop #2 and have them run it for a while *just like you would* -- cover on, everything buttoned up. As quickly as it apparently is happening for you, they should see it just as quickly. Then have them fix what's broken.
If it doesn't happen for them (mechanic's syndrome), then I'd ask them to swap different pieces to see what might be the culprit. And I'd start with the power supply... I've replaced several in my machines, and while they last a long time, they aren't forever.
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11-01-2004, 10:31 AM | #22 |
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In spite of (and perhaps because of) the additional history you've just passed along, I'd still take it back to repair shop #2 and have them run it for a while *just like you would* -- cover on, everything buttoned up. As quickly as it apparently is happening for you, they should see it just as quickly. Then have them fix what's broken.
If it doesn't happen for them (mechanic's syndrome), then I'd ask them to swap different pieces to see what might be the culprit. And I'd start with the power supply... I've replaced several in my machines, and while they last a long time, they aren't forever. And while I think of it, have you checked the Windows logs (the event viewer) for any messages? That might clue you in to exactly what's misbehaving. 'Course, whoever you're taking it to should have done that, but it never hurts to be sure.
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11-01-2004, 10:39 AM | #23 | |
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11-01-2004, 11:59 AM | #24 |
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11-01-2004, 07:14 PM | #25 |
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Have you changed the RAM lately and how much do you have? I strongly believe that nobody knows dick about these things anymore.
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11-01-2004, 11:39 PM | #26 |
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I called Shop#2 back today and told them what was happening. They asked if the PC was well ventilated because it could be overheating. I have the PC under my little Wal-Mart Special Computer Station. It is not inside a little compartment built of the tower, it sits under the keyboard shelf. The tech suggested pulling the PC out from the wall a little further (I had it about 4-6 inches away from the wall) and see if that helped.
Tonight, the machine rebooted THREE TIMES when I tried to get onto the internet for the first time [img]graemlins/madhell.gif[/img] - but it has since "calmed down" and seems to be working fine (for now). VulcanRider - What I mean by a missing backplate is exactly what it sounds like. There is no backplate to fit "flush" against the back of the machine that closes off the "gaps" around the different plugs on the motherboard. I can look straight into the back of my machine around the plugs for my monitor, keyboard, printer, etc. Yeah, I know it is a POS thing to do, but by the time this happened they had had my PC for several weeks and I wasn't interested in waiting another week for them to order a NEW mobo in to replace this one....especially after they agreed to sell it at almost half-price. I realize I will eventually have to replace the mobo, but that's where the actions of Shop#2 will help. NOW I can go BACK to Shop#1 and say "Alright, I had another shop do a fresh install, and my machine is STILL acting up...so it MUST be the fault of one of the components YOU installed...and my first guess would be that POS motherboard you put in. I want a warranty replacement for the mobo or I'm going to the BBB." The tech at Shop#2 DID offer to let me bring the machine back so they could just set it up and let it run to see if they could reproduce the problem...but they charge a $25.00 fee just to look at it - even if they don't do anything. However, I do know them personally and have a history with them, so they might waive that fee since they just "fixed" the machine last week. The power supply IS a possible culprit because it was NOT upgraded with the rest of the machine. I bought this PC online from a discount dealer and it worked perfectly for 2 years (so I guess I shouldn't complain too much), but I'll never make that same mistake again. Next time, I'm getting a Dell. Not only are they FAR more reliable, but Dell actually offers an extra discount to workers in the Healthcare Industry (schweeeeet). I haven't checked it out to see just HOW good a deal I can get, but if my problems persist, the "Dude, it'll be time to get a Dell." OH...one other note. I DO have a back-up PC that has worked fine and has most of the my games on it (including a FULL INSTALL of BGII). Ironically, THAT machine came from Shop#1. I convinced the shop owner to donate PC system for a fundraiser we were having and sold raffle tickets. Very few people bought any tickets, so I ended up buying most of them myself. Out of a total of 200 tickets sold, I bought 50 of them ($1.00 apiece). So I got a new PC for only 50 bucks. My boys use it most of the time. Tonight, I went into the room to turn that machine off, and I'll be damned if it didn't have the SAME FREAKIN MESSAGE on the screen (This system has recovered from a serious error!). SONNUVA.... That convinced me beyond any shadow of doubt about the "quality" of parts and PC's that Shop#1 deals in. I've talked to my wife about the situation and I've just about decided to simply sign up for computer courses at the local community college and learn how to fix this crap myself. PLUS - I've always wanted to do web page designs. While my programming skills are pathetic (and that's being generous), I've always had a knack for creating neat graphics - even WAAAAAY back when I was first learning to program using B.A.S.I.C. Even with THAT limited language (and my even more limited programming skills) I could create some neat looking screens. Now would be a good time to kill two birds with one stone.
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11-02-2004, 04:58 AM | #28 |
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Heh! Nice quote !
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11-02-2004, 06:45 AM | #30 |
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Just for fun, the next time you're at either of these places, ask them if they know what ESD is. If they don't, run like hell! If they do, ask them what steps they take to prevent this from happening to your, or anybody elses PC. They should be wearing a grounded wrist strap, or have a specially grounded floor with special footwear. A lab coat would really help, specially if they're wearing non-natural fiber, like polyester. I used to work for Digital and believe me, it does make a big difference. Most componants on the MB can fry at about 50volts. You discharge 1000's of volts all the time!
..and I'm still leaning toward the MB, even though both PC's are doing it. Or get rid of BG?? [ 11-02-2004, 07:08 AM: Message edited by: Variol (Farseer) Elmwood ]
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