09-17-2001, 11:59 PM | #231 | |
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09-18-2001, 06:18 AM | #232 | |
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09-18-2001, 02:31 PM | #233 | |
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I know from first hand some of that history and while it is true we helpped create some of those terrorist states, you are over simplifying the whole issue by ignoring the reason those states were supported. You fail to take into context the facts that nesecitated the supply of arms to that region of the world. It wasn't all done out fo greed. I understand that you are young, I don't expect you to really have a good grasp of the geopolitical pressures that formed the middle east into what it is today. Heck I lived through a lot of it and I don't understand some of it either. The main thing I want to point out is about the "why people are evil" thing. Asked about an evil gene. Clearly you have never actually encountered in person one of these types of people. Yeah there may be some genetic thing involved but Genes do not a social being make, there is no known reason why a perfectly normal kid will turn to torturing animals, move on to young children then finaly to mass murder. It is easyest to just call them sick twisted people. There are no known ways to "cure" these people with kindness and love. They simply lack whatever it is that makes normal people civil creatures. Personally I think it is just some kind of brain defect. But having looked this kind of person eye to eye on a couple of occasions I can truely state that they are not really human in any conventional sense. It is a very very scary and horrifying thing to see that kind of twisted maliciousness I hope you never come face to face with the like sof them, history is replete with them though so study YOUR history. Hitler, Stalin, Jim Jones, Jeffry Dahmer and on and on and on the list goes. Finally in closing. I know where the arms in the east came from, but the west selling them guns didn't start the barbarism there, it existed before there was a civilised west. The flower of civilisation started in the middle east or so Im told, and they never advanced. Instead it degenerated into the savageness that we see today. Israel occupying this or that bank of a river has nothing to do with wether it is ok to suicide bomb a bunch of civilians. Why did Israel move to the west bank?? hmmm can you say Attacks from Syria and Egypt?? maybe they didn't feel safe letting their neighbors get too close...maybe we shouldnt just oversimplify. (none of this is ment to hurt feeling or point the blame, it is all just to provoke some thought, the younger you are the easier it is to be idealistic and simplistic) ------------------ Disintigration is easy, If you really want to impress me, ReIntegrate it. |
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09-18-2001, 02:34 PM | #234 | |
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09-18-2001, 02:38 PM | #235 | |
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Secondly sorry if it hurts your feelings but LIFE is predatory study your biology, Zoology and all the rest of the natural sciences. Secondly I base my comments on humans from 40 years of personal observation and experience. Experience gathered from 25 states in the USA, The Philipine Islands, Several South American Countries that I was never told which one I was in, Various places in europe, and lastly From the middle east again several countries that I was never sure which place I was. So yeah I think Ive seen a fair cross section. ------------------ Disintigration is easy, If you really want to impress me, ReIntegrate it. |
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09-18-2001, 02:41 PM | #237 | |
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I would agree with you if said airmen didn't do everything in their power to avoid causing unnesecary casulaties, I would agree if I didn't know of pilots who gave their own life to save a few innocent civilians, I would agree IF you had any idea what you were talking about. Your post wasnt a serious commentary it was strictly set out as bait. Nice try. ------------------ Disintigration is easy, If you really want to impress me, ReIntegrate it. |
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09-18-2001, 02:43 PM | #238 | |
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Originally posted by MagiK:
Secondly I base my comments on humans from 40 years of personal observation and experience. Experience gathered from 25 states in the USA, The Philipine Islands, Several South American Countries that I was never told which one I was in, Various places in europe, and lastly From the middle east again several countries that I was never sure which place I was. So yeah I think Ive seen a fair cross section. [/B][/QUOTE] So from this, you want us to believe that your personal observation started at birth? Absolutely fascinating... [This message has been edited by Absynthe (edited 09-18-2001).] |
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