Should we LOVE the Kobolds, not hate them? ~continued~

[Dragonshadow]

Originally posted by The Lilarcor: Just a question Scythe, In my adventures, when killing a few Kobolds, they exploded like a fireball, either I am confusing them with another race, these are a special breed made by some evil wizards, or its the whole race. Please clarrify that for me, because integration would be harder if when a kobold died, it blew up.

I do belive they are Kamakazi Kobolds.

[Sythe]

Some of their race is so fanatical at destroying us they sacrfice their own life in order to destroy at least one of us. I admit this is the extreme but they are reacting to centuries of mistreatment. This also must be considred extreme by Kobold standards too.

[Lord Brass]

Originally posted by Sythe: Some of their race is so fanatical at destroying us they sacrfice their own life in order to destroy at least one of us. I admit this is the extreme but they are reacting to centuries of mistreatment. This also must be considred extreme by Kobold standards too.

If only this were so, Sythe. I feel that this sort of behaviour, however extreme, is far more common than even the K.A.K. would like to admit. It is a shame that this race (in particular) seems hell-bent on "taking us with them". Despite the fact that we are still debating the relative merits of Kobold Integration.

[Dragonshadow]

The kobolds kill tyhemselves.
We are mearly helping them on their way.

[Sythe]

Nay Dragonshadow thou art wrong. Thy bloodlust hath blinded thee. Thou must see as I hath posted before that SOMETH of the kobolds did that. Not all! All of Ko and he brethren are driven mad by the plauge of fear. That hath been in their minds for centuries. Adventurers like you and me had once driven the plauge deeper into their minds. Some of the great kobold minds were so poisonied that they art fanatical in killing ye and me. They focus all their hatred on us and wish to take their own life to ensure protection of their people. I call these kobold Martyrs not Kamakazies. I spoketh the truth about this many a time.

[Dragonshadow]

Originally posted by Sythe:
Nay Dragonshadow thou art wrong. Thy bloodlust hath blinded thee.We all know that.
Thou must see as I hath posted before that SOMETH of the kobolds did that. Not all!No, but they're going to soon. No time like the present...
All of Ko and he brethren are driven mad by the plauge of fear. That hath been in their minds for centuries. Adventurers like you and me You admit it! You must have kiled kobolds!
...had once driven the plauge deeper into their minds. Some of the great kobold minds were so poisonied that they art fanatical in killing ye and me. Kobolds never had great minds. Face it.
They focus all their hatred on us and wish to take their own life to ensure protection of their people. I call these kobold Martyrs not Kamakazies. I spoketh the truth about this many a time.
They are still kobolds.

[ 07-02-2003, 08:20 AM: Message edited by: Dragonshadow ]

[Myrddin L'argenton]

Originally posted by The Lilarcor: quote: Originally posted by Myrddin L'argenton: One question, let us put this into perspective. Has anyone read Xenocide by Orson Scott Card. It puts into view, how to classify creatures. One, Utlanning, a person that lives in a different place, e.g. someone that lives in Australia is an Utlanning to me. A Framling is someone that lives on a different planet (can not give any good examples). A ramen is something that we recognise as a human, e.g. an alien, something, we can communicate with. A Varelse is something we can not communicate with like an animal (no comments you know what I mean) and a Djur is something that is a raving beast that slaughters your people in the night. I suggest we catergorize the kobolds therefore.

If kobolds are then Djur's, then that would mean they are not capable of sentient thought, and that all kobolds attack on site. If kobolds were deciding what humans were, I'd pretty sure they'd classify themselves as ramens, and us as Djurs because from their prespective, we attack them on site and they are defending themselves. And where is this Australia, and by planet, do you mean other planes? A more correct classification for Kobolds would probably be Varelse, as that they have sentient thought and are not raving and the fact that most don't speak common and most of us don't speak kobold.

And, I thought the purpose of this meeting was to decide what to do with the Kobolds, not classify them. [/QUOTE]Classification helps us decide whether or not they are able to be made adjusted to a society. The classification of Varelse proves that they should not be able to join a society such as Baldur's Gate. Therefore we can claim kobolds as free game.

[Dragonshadow]

Classification lets us decide waether or not to kill them

[Sythe]

Dragonshadow how cruel and heartless can you be. You want to wipeout an entire race. Does your bloodlust go so far as to make an noble race extinct? I am suprised at you.

[Dragonshadow]

Originally posted by Sythe: Dragonshadow how cruel and heartless can you be. You want to wipeout an entire race. Does your bloodlust go so far as to make an noble race extinct? I am suprised at you.

Dear Mr. Sythe, my friend, pray halt thy insulting to listen.
I do not wish to kill all kobolds, mearly those that cause mine firends trouble.

I am not creul and hartless.

Yrs, DS