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Old 10-11-2008, 02:35 PM   #11
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There's probably alot of lobbying going around as well. Things we don't see.
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Old 10-11-2008, 05:22 PM   #12
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Nice quadruple post Stratos! Wow, can you say "edit" button boys and girls??

Actually, with that avatar, I don't blame. I know you don't want to be thought of as worshiping false gods!

My mom had breast, lymph node, and uvula cancer. Over the past few years. Yes, she still smokes! I asked her how many body parts they would have to cut out, before she gets it.

My step-dad has Parkinson's Disease. With the treatments he has been receiving in Germany twice over the last few years, he's almost living a "normal" life. He's 79 now.

I think the real question is: "What is killing us"? Is it our food, our environment, or what? Or some combo, or all, or more. I don't believe people were getting cancer in droves hundreds of years ago. I may be wrong.

I don't think the Sun is much of a cause of skin cancer either. If that were true, I think we would be extinct, or if you're in the evolution crowd, would have built up immunities.

But, yeah, let's spread the love with the charities around. Jerry got 61+ million for his kids this year. That's just from the average Joe!
The corporate stuff is separate. That can help a lot of people in a lot of other fields as well.
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Old 10-11-2008, 05:36 PM   #13
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Nice quadruple post Stratos! Wow, can you say "edit" button boys and girls??
I did a "Yorick"; multiple post after one another.

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Actually, with that avatar, I don't blame. I know you don't want to be thought of as worshiping false gods!
Acually I had the Dreadnoks avatar before.

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My mom had breast, lymph node, and uvula cancer. Over the past few years. Yes, she still smokes! I asked her how many body parts they would have to cut out, before she gets it.
My maternal grandmother was like that.


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I think the real question is: "What is killing us"? Is it our food, our environment, or what? Or some combo, or all, or more. I don't believe people were getting cancer in droves hundreds of years ago. I may be wrong.
Well, cancer is mostly associated with old age and people didn't live as long before. A hundred years ago I don't know, but cancer was probably pretty common back then as well. Our modern lifestyles might increase the risk of cancer but probably not by fantastic magnitudes.

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I don't think the Sun is much of a cause of skin cancer either. If that were true, I think we would be extinct, or if you're in the evolution crowd, would have built up immunities.
I suspect the reason here is that people prone to develop skin cancer, light-skinned people, expose more of their skin directly to the sun nowadays compared to, say, a hundred years ago. I mean, bikinis would not be acceptable article of clothing back then.
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Old 10-11-2008, 09:21 PM   #14
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I think the real question is: "What is killing us"? Is it our food, our environment, or what? Or some combo, or all, or more. I don't believe people were getting cancer in droves hundreds of years ago. I may be wrong.
l.
I'm just going to go with flawed evolution on that. Human's are far from perfect beings. I dare say, in three million years, 75% of the terminal diseases on the planet will be eradicated, not necessarily via medicine, but just by immunities. I reckon we'll evolve past cancer.

But that's a different discussion

I know that breast cancer isn't a purely female disease, but it's advertised as one. All the adverts going around say 'breast cancer affects x amount of women in the world' and have pictures of females on them. They also have pink ribbons, which, lets face it, is a colour with heavy connotations towards the female gender. I actually think that this proves my point a little more. Why are the women dying of this more important than the men? Granted there are more of them, but I'm of the opinion that one life is equal to another. Regardless of gender. It's down to a combination of feminism and the influence of the media. Horrible cocktail, in my opinion.
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Old 10-11-2008, 09:31 PM   #15
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I know that breast cancer isn't a purely female disease, but it's advertised as one. All the adverts going around say 'breast cancer affects x amount of women in the world' and have pictures of females on them. They also have pink ribbons, which, lets face it, is a colour with heavy connotations towards the female gender. I actually think that this proves my point a little more. Why are the women dying of this more important than the men? Granted there are more of them, but I'm of the opinion that one life is equal to another. Regardless of gender. It's down to a combination of feminism and the influence of the media. Horrible cocktail, in my opinion.

I think the reason for the heavy direction towards the female population is simply because there's more of them. Male breast cancer patients are a minority, and those who are affected probably have too much pride to be publicized. Because as most people will prove to you, there is a false connection made between breast cancer and women. So to these few males who have it, coming to the public would include being ridiculed for having "a woman's disease". Although I'm not sure what exactly this would jeopardize, it is safe to say that people naturally want to avoid this. Whereas , a female having BC isn't odd to the public, because they've been fed that story so many times through media.

The pink colour definitely has a feminine touch to it, I've got to admit you're onto something there . Just like how PC funds have the blue colour (a more manly colour I assume).

And lastly its not that women dying from this are more important than the men who die from it. But we hear about the women more, than we do of men. Simply because they have an easier time coming out, thanks to the societal padding that they are given.

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Old 10-11-2008, 09:57 PM   #16
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I was DJing last night, at a 'Pink Party'
Wouldn't be your first one eh Tom?

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Breast Cancer is not limited to women, so it cannot truly be considered a gender-limited issue.

They call it rare, but in 2005 1,690 men were diagnosed in just the US.
Compared to the 200k in the US for breast cancer? Or probably higher? It's a gender thing, I can't imagine anyone even trying to argue it isn't.

Well, I'm not a great charity giver, although I do give to MS charitys, but im seeing that as like a future investment.

And anyway, don't worry about Cancer, can't catch it twice right?

Oh wait, thats aids.....
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Old 10-12-2008, 12:10 PM   #17
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And anyway, don't worry about Cancer, can't catch it twice right?

Oh wait, thats aids.....
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I still feel that BC gets far more attention that other diseases do. Was just wondering why the media does this? There are far worse diseases out there in my opinion. Christ, there are thousands of people dying every year from diarrhea in some countries. And I pity any of the poor people who get struck down with something like ALS.

Meh. Was just wondering what made breast cancer so special.
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Old 10-12-2008, 12:28 PM   #18
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I truly believe it boils down to the fact its a disease the effects women mainly.

I also believe women are far more likely to "rally for a cause" and get these things setup.

Men just can't be arsed.
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Old 10-12-2008, 12:38 PM   #19
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Lobbying and famous spokespersons.
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