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Old 06-28-2007, 07:19 AM   #11
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Scientologists are kinda odd, but I'm not sure you should ban them. And I'm worried that Germany will try to spread this to the rest of the European Union. They're already on a crusade against anything in any way related to Hitler.
We make sure they'll never forget about that, especially during footballmatches.
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:02 PM   #12
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Instead, the topic should ask the question as to why a country would have a prejudice against a personal belief.
Because Hitlers "personal belief" - which was very much spiritual and religious in content - killed 6 million Jews, and destroyed Germany for decades.
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:12 PM   #13
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Instead, the topic should ask the question as to why a country would have a prejudice against a personal belief.
Because Hitlers "personal belief" - which was very much spiritual and religious in content - killed 6 million Jews, and destroyed Germany for decades. [/QUOTE]So Scientology is viewed by Germans to be potentially destructive in nature or harmful enough to warrant a ban?

I know they don't ban all religions or faiths so why be so selective? I cannot figure out what makes this one more threatening than any other.
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:26 PM   #14
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Too bad we can't follow that lead!
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:42 PM   #15
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Yea, scientologists give me the creeps, but a ban against them in the States would never fly.
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Old 06-29-2007, 02:46 AM   #16
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So Scientology is viewed by Germans to be potentially destructive in nature or harmful enough to warrant a ban?
That appears to be the case. According to the story, Germany does not view it as a religion at all.
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I know they don't ban all religions or faiths so why be so selective? I cannot figure out what makes this one more threatening than any other.
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Old 06-29-2007, 02:52 AM   #17
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Hey... now here's an idea.

Does America respect the democratic decisions of Germany, and the concept of international sovereignty, to leave Germany the hell alone if it makes a decision concerning Scientology's religious status?

Or is America suddenly the ruler of the world that will impose it's values on other nations and peoples whether they like it or not, and with scant regard for the lessons those nations have learned about themselves from their own history?
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Old 06-29-2007, 07:58 AM   #18
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Yorick: Whaddya mean suddenly the ruler of the world?

But you are correct, Germany should be allowed to do whatever it wants. As long as they don't try to use their position in the EU to spread their agenda here. Which I think it might do.
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Old 06-29-2007, 10:40 AM   #19
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Let me go on record, in the event of misinterpretation, to say that I am acutally glad to see Cruise hit another speed bump. Ever since he started bringing his personal life into Hollywood, he's been met with rejection from what I've heard. The biggest hit ever was when his studio dropped him as a regular actor for their movies. Now this. All because he decided that he was suddenly important enough to try pushing with the supposed power that he had obtained as a worldwide celebrity.

I just hate it when celebrities suddenly get famous enough to decide to start running for political seats or trying to make the world see their viewpoint.

Why do I hate it? Because it distracts from their jobs...to be on a movie. I want to watch a movie and see the characters that are in the story...I dunno...its hard to describe.
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Old 06-29-2007, 11:55 AM   #20
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So its O.K. for all the countries of the world to critisize U.S. laws but if we say something against another country we'll be scolded, and I don't even know if any States officials made a comment about it one way or the other. By the way, I'm glad Germany chose to do what they did.
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