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Old 11-06-2005, 01:38 PM   #11
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Six hundred thousand!? for four movies!? 150 000 for a movie, not counting the media it is on!? This is ridiculous.
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Old 11-06-2005, 01:44 PM   #12
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Just for that, I'm going to download a whole bunch of movies and freely distribute them. WITHOUT the MPAA's express written consent. Mhuahahahaha!
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Old 11-06-2005, 01:55 PM   #13
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I´ll say go after the sharers not the downloaders, if i recall correct, it isn´t even illegal to download movies in Sweden just to share them to others. Also, the ammount of money is way too much, how much do you have to pay for e.g murder?
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Old 11-06-2005, 01:56 PM   #14
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Err, death?
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Old 11-06-2005, 02:14 PM   #15
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Well, every site you visit, you leave your virtual fingerprints, if they really want to,they can track everyone's internet history.
So if it's so easy, why not track all those who download illegally.
There mustve been some reason they picked this particular person. We have only heard one side of the story here, and that article is very pro-grandfather biased.

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I doubt the grandson is as innocent as grandfather would like to believe.
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Old 11-06-2005, 02:32 PM   #16
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They don't get everybody because it's a time-consuming and costly process to track people, and pretty difficult if the downloader knows what they're doing.

Personally I think they have a policy of going after the little guy as a way to raise awareness of how "piracy affects YOU" - I just happen to think it's a misguided one.
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Old 11-06-2005, 02:51 PM   #17
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They don't get everybody because it's a time-consuming and costly process to track people, and pretty difficult if the downloader knows what they're doing.

Personally I think they have a policy of going after the little guy as a way to raise awareness of how "piracy affects YOU" - I just happen to think it's a misguided one.
But then they would pick someone with whom they can get better publicity and better support. Like someone who does it on a larger scale and makes it more expensive for legitimate normal users. Not a kid and grandparent. They have to know people will be against them in this one. There must be a strong reason they picked on them.

I just think there is more to this than what the article tells us. Like I said, this is very one-sided story.
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Old 11-06-2005, 02:55 PM   #18
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They don't get everybody because it's a time-consuming and costly process to track people, and pretty difficult if the downloader knows what they're doing.

Personally I think they have a policy of going after the little guy as a way to raise awareness of how "piracy affects YOU" - I just happen to think it's a misguided one.
But then they would pick someone with whom they can get better publicity and better support. Like someone who does it on a larger scale and makes it more expensive for legitimate normal users. Not a kid and grandparent. They have to know people will be against them in this one. There must be a strong reason they picked on them.

I just think there is more to this than what the article tells us. Like I said, this is very one-sided story.
[/QUOTE]Unfortunantly, anyone can be a target, mainly because from the beginning, all the trakers see is that a PC somewhere in the world has downloaded something illegal, and it isnt untill they really start to track down that person that they find out if they are a grandparent of or a little boy, and by that stage they have spent too much money/time to turn back.
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Old 11-06-2005, 03:12 PM   #19
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For the most part, I get the impression of a witchhunt when it comes to the crackdown on piracy...It really seems to me to be the wrong direction to come at this problem (and it is a problem) from. The solution, to me, seems to be to lower prices a bit. Seriously, mass producing DVDs and CDs has become much less expensive in the past decade...heck, I could set up a bunch of CD burners/DVD burners and turn out an very large quantity of the things with as little as $10000, which is a rounding error to the companies that produce this stuff.

It's a market demand, and it would do the supply-side well to respond a bit to it. Lower the prices a little, and you'll ship significantly more volume, as no one wants to go to the trouble of downloading stuff if it's easier (and the opportunity cost is lower) to just go buy the stuff.

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Old 11-06-2005, 03:19 PM   #20
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Hmm I do wanna know how they found who it was though. In my understanding, the ISP is the only one who knows which IP address they assign to who, and when. Therefore, the police'd have to get the equivalent of a warrant or court order to get the ISP to disclose the link between IP address and user name, address, no?
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