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Old 07-08-2001, 09:57 AM   #11
Xanthul
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I still dont have Throne of Bhaal so i dont know about that thing. About the golden pantaloons and their use in BG1:
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a.- Identify them and give them back to the nobleman to get some xp
b.- Keep them. Later, in Baldurs Gate city, in the 2nd floor of the Splurging Sturgeon there is a guy who has some silly conversation (talking about the "trade", the dialogue has some very weird lines). If you talk to him and you dont have the pantaloons, nothing will happen. If you have them, heŽll take them and leave. You dont get any xp, its just a silly "quest" i think. But now that you mention that stuff Larry, i wonder if giving the pantaloons to this guy will have any effect on that armor thing

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Old 07-08-2001, 08:49 PM   #12
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If you don't like spoilers about metallic pants, do not read below.




This is how I found out that it was real.
I am in a city called Amkethran. I walked up to the North East side of town, and entered a shop where a dude was selling every type of magic scroll invented. There was a dwarf in that same room. I talked to him, and he was reluctant to tell me his profession, telling me that I would make fun of it. I told him to please tell me, and he said he made special armor. He also did work with machinery, but I probably did not care about such a thing. I told him, "Will you please make me some armor?". He said that he needed to look through my stuff. Not having what he needed, I was told to leave him alone. I clicked on the machine behind him, and it's description mentioned that it looked like a big device that mended fabric together, and that there was some fabric stuck in the gears at that moment. I broke out my cheat book that I bought with my purchase of ToB just so I could look up wierd things like this. It said that I would find the Bronze pants in "", and together with the previous two that I should have, I could make an increadible suit of armor, that brought me abilities of a juggernaut Golem. (Your char. on screen even has the appearnace of a golem. It is fun!
Anyway, my cheat book was nice enough to give us the cheat code to use for us crazy people that did not hold onto that stuff, previously mentioned. I typed it in, and now it is in my inventory. There are three different cannons that come with the suit, but I will not go any farther in explaining details.

Eventually, this post will be lost to time, and newcomers will still be asking what they should do with those pants. I hope to convince them easier than you guys. It is the most difficult item to acquire in the game, but very fun to use. I don't use it often, because it is so strong. But ocasionally, I need it to help get me through a certain area.
I hope that none of you are angry at me for posting this, because it is definately the best kept secret in the game. I mean, even I did not keep those pants like I should have, and I carried them around to almost the very end of the game, wondering what to do with them, and finally threw them away when I got to Durlag's Tower to make room for other things.


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Old 07-09-2001, 12:11 PM   #13
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To Larry: I played BGII of course but admittedly not with an imported character, just a wholly created PC. I started out with no items whatever, so I assumed that an import would as well. Guess I was wrong on that account.

(::now wondering if the little items that I picked up in the dungeon (i.e. Longsword +1 etc) would be replaced by my old items...:

And the Big Metal Unit thing does exist, and its one heck of an amusing (and powerful! ) Easter Egg. Except they're so big they can;t fit through some doors with the armour on...

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Old 07-09-2001, 01:31 PM   #14
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Originally posted by Kryndath:

...except the character is so big he/she can't fit through some doors with the armor on...

Yeah, there has to be a negative to using it, maybe to give balance to such a strong thing.



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Old 07-09-2001, 05:53 PM   #15
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Pants.... Not my ball game really!

BUT, the claw of kazarakoth i do know about!
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You get it from High hedge, as some one already said. I used them ALL of BG1. From Chapter 2 to the end of the game. It does do some bad things but overall good.

1. It makes you blurred and harder to hit
2. It makes your character look really cool!
3. It makes loads of saving throws betta!
4. More Stuff

Bad Stuff
1. It counts as a cursed item so u cant get it off without that spell
2. -2 to your Constitution (I still managed to rack up 75 hp by the end )
3. It knackers in ure save vs death spell... (or is it save vs breath?... Any way, it puts all your other saves UP)
4. Its Purrty Expensive

Hope This Helps!

btw, can any one help me shrink this pic 4 my sig?


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Old 07-09-2001, 06:01 PM   #16
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Beaumanoir, pictures hosted by geocities dont work outside their domain... send the pic to ziroc and heŽll host it for you.

then, to use it in your sig, just write this:
[ IMG ]your_image_address[ /IMG ]
without the spaces



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Old 07-11-2001, 04:53 PM   #17
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For the complete info on all items and spoilers (especially big metal unit) go to this site. Contains major spoiler on this item and its ammo and such.


http://gamebanshee.com/baldursgateii...cellaneous.php
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Old 07-13-2001, 05:45 PM   #18
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OK. Going back to the Claw of Kazgaroth, it is sold by Thalantyr in High Hedge. The damage you are thinking of is probably the Horn of Kazgaroth. The Claw works as a cursed item in that you need a remove curse spell to take it off, but in my opinion it is one of the most underrated items in the game. It gives a +1 bonus to AC, +4 vs any missile attacks and +3 to all saves except for death magic, which is -4, and creates a -2 penalty to constitution. In the case of a non-fighter main character, if you start out with a con of 16 you can effectively finish the game with a con of 17, and with the Claw that is lowered to 15, meaning that you are only sacrificing 1 HP per level (which you get back as soon as the Claw is removed) and a few points on your paralyzation/poison/death magic save in return for all ofthe above bonuses, and unlike other magical protections, you can wear it with magical armor or rings of protection...

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Old 07-14-2001, 06:35 AM   #19
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goto www.gamebanshee.com for a full spoiler on the most amazing and powerful item in the whole Faerun!
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Old 08-13-2001, 04:17 PM   #20
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PANTALOONS SPOILER
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Yes it really does create the Big Metal Unit. The BMU has a base AC of -10 and makes you look like an iron golem (you wont fit on small staircases, trust me) I have a ranger that i took through the entire series. It counts as armor, so your mage spells will be disabled. I found that having it on was entirely useless. There are +5/+6 (yes +6 I'm serious) items in Throne of Bhaal. While the Fists attack you use count as only +2. Trust me there are a LOT of creatures you need +3 for. Theres a Cannon w/ it that has Napalm, Frag Grenades, and Pulse ammo for it. It counts as a two handed weapon. All of the ammo does really crappy damage. Napalm is agnazars scorcher, frag is a lvl one skull trap, and the pulse does 1d6 electrical i beleive.

Also, the item is, i beleive, an item for Evil parties who have gone through the entire series. I say this because obviously walking off with someones pants is neither lawful, nor good. The pair you get from SoA requires a totally evil act that lowers your rep. The third pair is rather humorous, however it would a gross act of pride and stupidity to really do what you have to. If you want to know more about the Quests themselves there are posts all over the SoA and ToB forums.

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