Reality keeps intruding on Hollywood movie

[Stratos]

Is this an anti-military film, or just one about a couple of soldiers who didn´t behave properly?

[Attalus]

LOL, I didn't say not to release it. I think they should, but I hope it tanks. I certainly won't be seeing it, or any of my friends, and that is what they are worrying about, I deem. Not me, but many, many moviegoers.

[Larry_OHF]

Yeah, let'em release it...then we'll see their profits go down the twoilet. They'll lose money on this one.

[Rimjaw]

I'll go on a limb here and say i'm dissapointed this movie isn't coming.

Reason being I read part of the novel and had been tracking this movies progress for several months now. The news article is unduly harsh. Go check out the films reviews on imdb and rottentomatoes. It appears Buffalo Soldiers is suffering the same fate as The Quiet American.

By the same standards I suppose you guys hate M*A*S*H as well.

[WillowIX]

Originally posted by HolyWarrior: I believe so, Attalus. I'm glad that SOMEBODY in Hollywood has finally gotten the message that releasing an anti-military movie is a VERY BAD idea. [img]graemlins/1disgust.gif[/img]

Yeah, god knows what would happen if Hollywood would release a movie where there were no Americans proudly waving their flags, preaching the usual "We´re the best"! (This is not an anti-American statement, more an anti-Hollywood )

Attalus, you don´t have to see the movie as you said. I hope I misunderstood your 1st post though.

I don´t see why America has to pictured as the ultimate saint for a movie to sell.

"depiction of drug-dealing U.S. soldiers in 1989 West Germany " Very anti-military indeed. A couple of guys out of I don´t know how many thousands who proved to be complete idiots. You know, that really tells you nothing about the US military does it now? Let´s ask a few who´s been in your military and ask them how many drug-dealers they´ve met.

Does it have to be relevant to make a good movie Iron Ranger? If I my memory isn´t failing me Galdiator was a huge, partly true, story with no relevance at all. The same goes for Schindler´s list. Where is the relevance in that? Does it HAVE to be an eyeopener? Can´t it just be a movie?

Showing what a few idiots did 15 years ago isn´t really offending is it? I find it sad.

Originally posted by Azred: I think they should release it, but wait until June. Not because an "anti-military" movie is a bad idea, but because it will never measure up to the blockbusters X2: X-Men United and Matrix: Reloaded. I HAVE MY TICKETS TO BOTH!!!! Sorry about that [img]smile.gif[/img] I Have two tickets to X2 1:00pm showing on this Friday and the Matrix:Reloaded 1:00PM Thursday the 15th [img]smile.gif[/img] WoooHoooo!!!!!!!! Ahem...err sorry just a little excited is all [img]smile.gif[/img] If a movie studio is going to go through all the trouble creating a movie and the general consensus is that the movie will actually make money (or at least pay for itself) then they should release it, regardless of what is going on in the world. To say that a movie will somehow cause a public outcry is akin to saying that Saturday morning cartoons make children violent.

As for the "Buffalo Soldiers" While the concept may be valid, Im wondering why bother making a movie out of such dung? Can't the best script writers in the world come up with movies that are going to be awesome and not so....mediocre and not true of the majority of the service members??

Originally posted by WillowIX: I don´t see why America has to pictured as the ultimate saint for a movie to sell. But why go out of your way to make this kind of crap movie? Can't anyone think of something positive and / or awesome to make movies about? If I want news Ill turn to a news channel....Movies are for entertainment...or so I thought "depiction of drug-dealing U.S. soldiers in 1989 West Germany " Very anti-military indeed. A couple of guys out of I don´t know how many thousands who proved to be complete idiots. You know, that really tells you nothing about the US military does it now? Let´s ask a few who´s been in your military and ask them how many drug-dealers they´ve met. Prior to 1981 I met tons and I hear that in Vietnam there were a bunch..but not the MAJORITY of people...post 1981 (when the US armed forces adopted wide spread random urinalysis programs) the number dropped steadily all throughout my time in the service..what was common became rare at the duty stations I was at. Does it have to be relevant to make a good movie Iron Ranger? If I my memory isn´t failing me Galdiator was a huge, partly true, story with no relevance at all. The same goes for Schindler´s list. Where is the relevance in that? Does it HAVE to be an eyeopener? Can´t it just be a movie? Not having seen it I can't say wether it was a good movie, however I have my doubts about the writers motives, there are those who just want to go negative. Again I think there are about a billion subjects that would make a better movie. Showing what a few idiots did 15 years ago isn´t really offending is it? I find it sad.

Not meaning to "attack" you willow [img]smile.gif[/img] just to address your questions.

[ 04-30-2003, 03:19 PM: Message edited by: MagiK ]

Originally posted by Rimjaw: I'll go on a limb here and say i'm dissapointed this movie isn't coming. Reason being I read part of the novel and had been tracking this movies progress for several months now. The news article is unduly harsh. Go check out the films reviews on imdb and rottentomatoes. It appears Buffalo Soldiers is suffering the same fate as The Quiet American. By the same standards I suppose you guys hate M*A*S*H as well.

LOL not at all and I loved catch-22. I am just skeptical about the movie...but to be fair and honest I don't know anything other than the basic premise.

Edit: Im assuming you ment MASH the Motion Picture, the series could hardly be deemed "offensive" in my view.

[ 04-30-2003, 03:22 PM: Message edited by: MagiK ]

[WillowIX]

Originally posted by MagiK: quote: Originally posted by WillowIX: But why go out of your way to make this kind of crap movie? Can't anyone think of something positive and / or awesome to make movies about? If I want news Ill turn to a news channel....Movies are for entertainment...or so I thoughtAnd why not? This can´t be a completely unknown story can it? Think of it as a movie and NOT an eyeopener. So why can´t this be entertainment. I´m sure you have seen movies about drug-dealers before. Prior to 1981 I met tons and I hear that in Vietnam there were a bunch..but not the MAJORITY of people...post 1981 (when the US armed forces adopted wide spread random urinalysis programs) the number dropped steadily all throughout my time in the service..what was common became rare at the duty stations I was at. Thank you MagiK. That pretty much proved my point. Not having seen it I can't say wether it was a good movie, however I have my doubts about the writers motives, there are those who just want to go negative. Again I think there are about a billion subjects that would make a better movie.Of course there are people like that. But can we be sure the writers of this movie are such people? Or could it be that the entire movie is positive? A few guys dealing drugs get busted. I´d say that is a very positive thing. Showing what a few idiots did 15 years ago isn´t really offending is it? I find it sad.

Not meaning to "attack" you willow [img]smile.gif[/img] just to address your questions. [/QUOTE]I know you were not attacking me MagiK. IMO as well as yours I believe there were no harsh words in your post so I don´t see how it could have been an attack. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Edit: Typos and a closed font tag.

[ 05-01-2003, 05:40 AM: Message edited by: WillowIX ]

Originally posted by WillowIX: quote: Originally posted by MagiK: quote: Originally posted by WillowIX: But why go out of your way to make this kind of crap movie? Can't anyone think of something positive and / or awesome to make movies about? If I want news Ill turn to a news channel....Movies are for entertainment...or so I thoughtAnd why not? This can´t be a completely unknown story can it? Think of it as a movie and NOT an eyeopener. So why can´t this be entertainment. I´m sure you have seen movies about drug-dealers before. Prior to 1981 I met tons and I hear that in Vietnam there were a bunch..but not the MAJORITY of people...post 1981 (when the US armed forces adopted wide spread random urinalysis programs) the number dropped steadily all throughout my time in the service..what was common became rare at the duty stations I was at. Thank you MagiK. That pretty much proved my point. Not having seen it I can't say wether it was a good movie, however I have my doubts about the writers motives, there are those who just want to go negative. Again I think there are about a billion subjects that would make a better movie.Of course there are people like that. But can we be sure the writers of this movie are such people? Or could it be that the entire movie is positive? A few guys dealing drugs get busted. I´d say that is a very positive thing. Showing what a few idiots did 15 years ago isn´t really offending is it? I find it sad.

Not meaning to "attack" you willow [img]smile.gif[/img] just to address your questions. [/QUOTE]I know you were not attacking me MagiK. IMO as well as yours I believe there were no harsh words in your post so I don´t see how it could have been an attack. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Edit: Typos and a closed font tag. [/QUOTE] I can see your point and that I am probably over critical of the movie just because of the subject. Guess will have to just wait and see if it ever comes out. One reason I am expecting the worst from this movie is that the production company is so nervous about public backlash...thats a signal to me that they are worried for a reason....