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Old 03-06-2003, 05:18 AM   #11
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Nobody says that Iraq is innocent. We say that USA isn't the saint neither. I've seen the leafless jungles of Vietnam. I we seen the babies of Hiroshima...
There are NO innocents in a combat zone, That ain't pretty, or fair but nothing in life is. Nothing personal but are you comparing leaves to humans? "Hale" I'll bet that allmost every year here in the USA alone more acerage is lost to forest fires then the total acerage defoliated in the entire Vietnam war. And Nobody ever said the USA was a saint or perfect.
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Old 03-06-2003, 07:41 AM   #12
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First off the USA is NOT anxious to jump into war IT HAS BEEN ALLMOST 18 months since our country was attacked! By no stretch of any imagination can that be considered anxious! For 18 months the USA has danced around any invasion. You bet your sweet pippy it will be a war! And people will die make no mistake about it!
THAT'S your excuse? what does Iraq have to do with the 9/11 terrorist attacks?
oh, wait... i forget who i'm talking to. i can understand how someone can be conviced the american propaganda machinery, while trying to get support for it's invasion of another country, would be closer to the truth than independant media across the world...
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Old 03-06-2003, 08:23 AM   #13
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People people calm down, this was thread was made to celebrate a song that a person liked. Personally like some of you who have posted I think the song is a right-wing pro-war pos. But then some of the conservatives on this board would think the same if one of us posted an anti-war song. It's music people [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Live and let live, if you want to go balance the odds post one of your own but don't derail this thread.
I suggest a good listening to "Fortunate Son" by Credence Clearwater Revival.
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Old 03-06-2003, 08:33 AM   #14
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I suggest a good listening to "Fortunate Son" by Credence Clearwater Revival.
Or even better, Aenima, by Tool.
Learn to swim!

That's what we need. A good natural disaster of global proportions to stop all of these pathetic humans banging their chests and crying their hearts out. S'been a while since a major comet's hit, surely we're due for one...
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Old 03-06-2003, 08:44 AM   #15
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Why do you think there is a Northern NO-fly zone in Iraq?
Because we (In what has to be one of the dumbest moves of the last 15 years) let Iraq keep its helocopters, which allowed them to crush the rebellion in the north. The Northern No-fly zone was a patch applied to a problem that shouldn't have existed in the first place.

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Or how about talking to the Iranians that where killed during the little war between Iraq and Iran?
Iran lost suprisingly few civilials.
Also, I think a country who's primary method of attack is the humanwave shouldn't compain when people get killed.

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Israel did not get any WoMD from the USA, they got them on their own, you know the old fashion way. They stole a ship loaded with fisionable matterial, the ship sailed from Norway I believe so if you want to blame somebody blame the Nowegians(SP?) for not having enough security on a ship of fisionable matterial.
Isreal got its nuclear weapons from France. The only thing it got from Norway was some heavy water, which Norway sold to France, and then France secretly sent to Israel. I have no idea where the whole "stole a ship" came from.
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Old 03-06-2003, 08:45 AM   #16
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Originally posted by Jay&SilentBob:

I suggest a good listening to "Fortunate Son" by Credence Clearwater Revival.
Or even better, Aenima, by Tool.
Learn to swim!

That's what we need. A good natural disaster of global proportions to stop all of these pathetic humans banging their chests and crying their hearts out. S'been a while since a major comet's hit, surely we're due for one...
[/QUOTE]And even then people wouldn't stop fighting. Ever seen Waterworld ?
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Old 03-06-2003, 08:51 AM   #17
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And even then people wouldn't stop fighting. Ever seen Waterworld ?
Indeed, so it would seem that the best idea would be to just get rid of all of the people...
Ever seen 12 monkeys?
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Old 03-06-2003, 09:23 AM   #18
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This is going to the War Forum.

Would those of you who are new to IW or to General Discussions or the War Forum please review the ToS and remember that at IW we expect members to treat each other with respect. I want to make sure that everyone realizes that flaming or outright baiting someone to argue in a non-respectful way is not acceptable.

Please also note that do NOT refer to individuals here as if they were the sole representatives of their homeland and it's political agenda. Therefore you should avoid saying "YOU did this,that..etc" when what you mean is "Your goverment chose to do this, that... etc"

This is a message board filled with individuals from all over the world. We have a unique opportunity to share our thoughts and cultures and in doing so, we enrich each other's lives. If we hold another responsible for the acts of all his nation, we are doing him or her a grave disservice. And missing out on a chance to learn and grow in an international community.

You don't have to agree with everyone, just be reasonably polite when disagreeing. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 03-06-2003, 09:34 AM   #19
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People people calm down, this was thread was made to celebrate a song that a person liked. Personally like some of you who have posted I think the song is a right-wing pro-war pos. But then some of the conservatives on this board would think the same if one of us posted an anti-war song. It's music people [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Live and let live, if you want to go balance the odds post one of your own but don't derail this thread.
I suggest a good listening to "Fortunate Son" by Credence Clearwater Revival.
I want to leave this thread with this quote. Jay&SilentBob makes a lot of good points. This WAS a thread about a song someone liked. I'm sorry to see it hijacked and turned into a war forum thread. The topic was music and how it made one person feel. Now, if you wish to discuss the war, please go to the WAR FORUM.
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