The Korean actions

[johnny]

There's already a carrier in Korea's waters, they better stay cool.

[Wutang]

The really scary thing is that NK will sell weapons to any country including terrorists.

If they start building nukes again, who knows where they will end up.

All I know is that if NK manages to pull it off and hits the US with one nuke, it'll receive like 20 nukes as retaliation.

[Rokenn]

Originally posted by johnny: North Korea is just trying to cut themselves a good deal on the international stage, like money and food, which are things they lack quite a bit. They are a wolf with no teeth, just a lot of howling, nothing else.

Hardly no teeth, they have tens of thousands of artillary pieces trained on Souel. If they decided to attack South Korea we could do nothing to stop them from completely destroying the city.

[johnny]

Originally posted by Rokenn: Quote: Originally posted by johnny: North Korea is just trying to cut themselves a good deal on the international stage, like money and food, which are things they lack quite a bit. They are a wolf with no teeth, just a lot of howling, nothing else.

Hardly no teeth, they have tens of thousands of artillary pieces trained on Souel. If they decided to attack South Korea we could do nothing to stop them from completely destroying the city.[/QUOTE]Yeah, they COULD do that, but that's about the ONLY thing they can do, and there won't be much left of Pyongyang after that either. Do you really think they'd risk such a thing ?

[Thoran]

Originally posted by Iron_Ranger: Heh, what are we suppoused to do? I can just see Bush saying: "Oh shit, I forgot about North Korea, ok Iraq is on hold!"

The US military is structured to be able to carry out two mid-scale operations simultaneously, and N.K. knows it. That's not to mention the modernized S.K. military that spends 12B per year as opposed to N.K.'s 4B. Though they may be smaller that does not necessarily translate into weaker these days.

[Felix The Assassin]

Originally posted by Wutang: The really scary thing is that NK will sell weapons to any country including terrorists. If they start building nukes again, who knows where they will end up. All I know is that if NK manages to pull it off and hits the US with one nuke, it'll receive like 20 nukes as retaliation.

Very Interesting.
Just exactly how will we deliver these "like 20 nukes"? What about our friends in S. Korea? What about the 2ND Infantry Division that is stationed there? The Marines, Sailors, Ships, and Air Force? Would we sacrafice our own people and equipment on a retaliatory strike? Think Honetly on this? Not very likely! Will California fall into the ocean from eartquake or from nuclear blast? Probably neither! Recall the scud missile attacks from GW1. We used some high tech stuff to destroy the ones (in flight) that Would/Could land in the vicinity of friendly forces. So, don't panic yet, especially if you see funny looking trucks with a missile silo on the back, hooked into a radar dish pop up all along the coast. However, the Pacific Ocean may no longer be, uhm, useful for babewatch girls!

[Wutang]

Felix - if NK nukes the US, the US armed forces there in South Korea would probably already be destroyed by NK's intense artillery bombardment and their shorter range nuke missles.

But I think the US would mainly concentrate on hitting Pyoyang and interior parts of NK not at the DMZ border or around Seoul.

I only mentioned 20 nukes since that's about what it'll probably take to wipe out most of the infrastructure of the NK regime.

I think it's always been US policy that if the US were ever attacked with nukes, it will retailiate 10-20 fold in return.

It was what kept the Cold war....cold.

[ 02-19-2003, 05:12 PM: Message edited by: Wutang ]

[Felix The Assassin]

Originally posted by Wutang: Felix - if NK nukes the US, the US armed forces there in South Korea would probably already be destroyed by NK's intense artillery bombardment and their shorter range nuke missles. But I think the US would mainly concentrate on hitting Pyoyang and interior parts of NK not at the DMZ border or around Seoul. I only mentioned 20 nukes since that's about what it'll probably take to wipe out most of the infrastructure of the NK regime. I think it's always been US policy that if the US were ever attacked with nukes, it will retailiate 10-20 fold in return. It was what kept the Cold war....cold.

From an aggressor view point. If I nuke something, place, objective, city, country. Then I cannot acquire it. If I nuke close to my own home, then I have effectively nuked my own soil. Highly unlikley NK would nuke SK, due to closeness of proximety, and the fact that once done, he could not take SK. IMHO nobody knows how powerful a NK nuke is. They have yet (thankfully) to test one. If they underestimate like we did in WWII, they could lose the whole island, and I don't think China would be to happy with that! Then there would be only the aftermath to deal with.

I think the US policy is we have the right to first strike with nuke. We have a retailatory strike policy based on Chemical/Biological munitions.

Felix

[Wutang]

Felix - that's what's really scarey about NK is that we just don't know what NK will do in a war. NK is so unpredictable that it could very well go ahead and turn all of korea into a sea of fire as they claim.

NK seems to follow Mao's doctrine that "power comes from the barrel of a gun" very closely too.

With NK locking up at least a million of it's own people in slave labor camps, I kind of wonder if they have any sympathy at all with creating massive civilian deaths including their own.

[ 02-21-2003, 04:38 PM: Message edited by: Wutang ]