Support inside Iraq

[Charean]

I am not sure that believing anything the press has to say is a good idea. That having been said, I don't believe that the civilians are that gung ho to support a leader who gasses them.

I don't support this way in any way, but I remember what Desert Storm was like (I was in Sicily fueling the aircraft with the troops and the Generals) and I don't think there will be a civilian uprising. They don't really want a war any more than civilians here do. They do it because they are told to.

And hence the difficulty of taking this terribly seriously.

No one wants it, but we have to do it to save face for our leaders.

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[Sir Taliesin]

I think it's all propaganda. My guess is that after some initail fighting, the civilain population will welcome the US troops with open arms. If they decide to fight, well it won't be very pretty for them.

I remember all the hul-a-blu about the "Vaunted" Republican Guard. I was there and they weren't "vaunted" anything. I expect nothing more this time either.

Sure there will be casualties, but we'll take it and go on. If a war(and imho there is a fifty/fifty chance there won't be one) with Iraq lasts more than a month, I'll be shocked.

Originally posted by Scholarcs: o_O ffs stop trying to corrupt me - although I am not a minor [img]tongue.gif[/img] If I don`t believe the mainstream media, what am I to believe? The speeches of George, of which portions are televised live? Not likely.

Once you have had a bit more experience ferriting out the truth of matters I think you will figure it out. There are ways to learn the truth of things.....some of it involves going out that looking for your self.

Edit: In the last war with Iraq, the 4th largest army in the world, CNN reporters armed with camcorders captured thousands of Iraqi soldiers...all of whom were claimed to be ready to die for their motherland. Scarey bunch them Iraqi's.

[ 01-06-2003, 06:30 PM: Message edited by: MagiK ]

[Animal]

Originally posted by Iron_Ranger: Well this is bad news anyway you look at it. Where is the line drawn between civillians and militants? If civillians shoot at american forces, can they shoot back? Sounds alot like Somallia.

Sounds a lot like Vietnam as well. That's why the US got trounced in Vietnam. You can't fight an enemy you can't see.

Originally posted by Animal: quote: Originally posted by Iron_Ranger: Well this is bad news anyway you look at it. Where is the line drawn between civillians and militants? If civillians shoot at american forces, can they shoot back? Sounds alot like Somallia.

Sounds a lot like Vietnam as well. That's why the US got trounced in Vietnam. You can't fight an enemy you can't see.

Dude, you are ignoring the lessons learned in the first Gulf War... read my edit to my last post. All these "devoted" people who will fight to the last to repell American invaders, surrendered in DROVES to unarmed civilians, hellicopters and anyone they could find. You are buying Saddams Bullshit and showing a rather large propensity to ignore reality. [/QUOTE]

[Horatio]

If you are an occupying soldier in uniform, you can easily be picked out. If you are a civilian with a gun, you cannot, especially in crowds.

[Djinn Raffo]

Originally posted by MagiK: quote: Originally posted by Animal: quote: Originally posted by Iron_Ranger: Well this is bad news anyway you look at it. Where is the line drawn between civillians and militants? If civillians shoot at american forces, can they shoot back? Sounds alot like Somallia.

Sounds a lot like Vietnam as well. That's why the US got trounced in Vietnam. You can't fight an enemy you can't see.

Dude, you are ignoring the lessons learned in the first Gulf War... read my edit to my last post. All these "devoted" people who will fight to the last to repell American invaders, surrendered in DROVES to unarmed civilians, hellicopters and anyone they could find. You are buying Saddams Bullshit and showing a rather large propensity to ignore reality. [/QUOTE][/QUOTE]Dude, you are making a judgement call and you do not know if this will be the case this time around or not.

[Cloudbringer]

Just a quick request of everyone: Can you keep the number of quoted sections down in your replies? Those massive quote pyramids get ungainly and throw off the spacing as well. Thanks!

[Iron_Ranger]

Originally posted by Djinn Raffo: Dude, you are making a judgement call and you do not know if this will be the case this time around or not.[/QB]

But how do you know it wont happen like that again? It could very easily be the same thing as in the first gulf war. Same leader, same people. Whats to keep it from not reoccuring?

[Sir Taliesin]

They don't know IR. Simple as that. Just as Majik or I don't know. But at least I've been there and seen the results from the first time around. Like you I don't expect anything to change this time either.