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Old 06-05-2004, 09:52 PM   #11
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Actually Gab, I was directling it to everyone.. My Wife's Moms mom has this disease, and it's so sad to see her forgetting who her daughters are and stuff.

The question has nothing to do with his presidency Gab.
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Old 06-05-2004, 10:27 PM   #12
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Let's just say that i hope, if should i ever get Alzheimer, someone has the decency to put me asleep forgood. I wouldn't know what was going on anyway.
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Old 06-05-2004, 10:58 PM   #13
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wow, he was a good man, he will be missed, I can still remember when he was president [img]smile.gif[/img]
I also must say that I am glad he is no longer suffering, I see what the disease can do, my father has it as well, may he rest in peace
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Old 06-05-2004, 11:13 PM   #14
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I agree with Johnny, I would rather be dead than suffering from this.

Just on a sidenote... are there any expresidents beside George Bush sr. alive today...
I can't remember if Jimmy Carter is still alive...
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Old 06-06-2004, 12:13 AM   #15
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I can't say that I agree with some of the things he did, but it's a heartbreaking disease, and nobody deserves it... I do hope he's at peace now.

And I do believe that Carter is alive... And so is Clinton.
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Old 06-06-2004, 02:03 AM   #16
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Reagan had policies I didn't like (stockpiling weapons, cutting corporate taxes) and policies that are irrefutably landmarks in history (the bidding game with the USSR that broke its back -- see previous "stockpilings weapons" remark).

Above all, he was an honest man, a loving husband, and a forthright American. Where his views clashed with mine, they did so quite openly, as they should. Clinton called him "an American Original," and I wholeheartedly agree.

Mr. President, Godspeed. Whatever respite you find, it is well-earned. And Mrs. President, thank you for continuing to be a paradigm of virtue in our society.

This is a sad day for America but it is the marking of the passing of a great life, and for that we cannot be sad. Time chases us all down, but here is one man who has left his timelessness behind. I am proud to have lived under this man's guidance and rule for some formative years of my life. *salute*
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The Nation's 40th President Dies at 93
By JEFF WILSON and TERENCE HUNT, AP

LOS ANGELES (June 6) - Ronald Reagan, the cheerful crusader who devoted his presidency to winning the Cold War, trying to scale back government and making people believe it was ''morning again in America,'' died Saturday after a long twilight struggle with Alzheimer's disease.

''My family and I would like the world to know that President Ronald Reagan has passed away after 10 years of Alzheimer's disease at 93 years of age. We appreciate everyone's prayers,'' Nancy Reagan said in a statement.

Nancy Reagan, along with children Ron and Patti Davis, were at the couple's Los Angeles home when Reagan died at 1 p.m. PDT of pneumonia, as a complication of Alzheimer's disease, said Joanne Drake, who represents the family. Son Michael arrived a short time later, she said.

In Paris, President Bush called Reagan's death ''a sad day for America.''

The U.S. flag over the White House - along with flags elsewhere - was lowered to half-staff. At ballparks and at the Belmont Stakes, there were moments of silence.

Five years after leaving office, the nation's 40th president told the world in November 1994 that he had been diagnosed with the early stages of Alzheimer's, an incurable illness that destroys brain cells. He said he had begun ''the journey that will lead me into the sunset of my life.''

A black hearse carried a flag-draped coffin from the Reagan home Saturday afternoon to a Santa Monica mortuary.

Reagan's body was expected to be taken to his presidential library and museum in Simi Valley, Calif., and then flown to Washington to lie in state in the Capitol Rotunda. His funeral was expected to be at the National Cathedral, an event likely to draw world leaders. The body was to be returned to California for a sunset burial at the library.

Reagan began his life in a four-room apartment over the general store in Tampico, Ill. During his 93 years, he was a radio sports announcer, an actor, a two-term governor of California and a crusader for conservative politics.

Over two presidential terms, from 1981 to 1989, Reagan reshaped the Republican Party in his conservative image, fixed his eye on the demise of the Soviet Union and Eastern European communism and tripled the national debt to $3 trillion in his singleminded competition with the other superpower.

''Ronald Reagan had a higher claim than any other leader to have won the Cold War for liberty and he did it without a shot being fired,'' former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher said Saturday.

At the time of Reagan's retirement, his very name suggested a populist brand of conservative politics that still inspires the Republican Party.
He declared at the outset, ''Government is not the solution, it's the problem,'' although reducing that government proved harder to do in reality than in his rhetoric.
Even so, he challenged the status quo on welfare and other programs that had put government on a growth spurt ever since Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal strengthened the federal presence in the lives of average Americans.

In foreign affairs, he built the arsenals of war while seeking and achieving arms control agreements with the Soviet Union.

In his second term, Reagan was dogged by revelations that he authorized secret arms sales to Iran while seeking Iranian aid to gain release of American hostages held in Lebanon. Some of the money was used to aid rebels fighting the leftist government of Nicaragua.

Despite the ensuing investigations, he left office in 1989 with the highest popularity rating of any retiring president in the history of modern-day public opinion polls.

That reflected, in part, his uncommon ability as a communicator and his way of connecting with ordinary Americans, even as his policies infuriated the left and as his simple verities made him the butt of jokes. ''Morning again in America'' became his re-election campaign mantra in 1984, but typified his appeal to patriotrism through both terms.

''He brought down the Evil Empire and made the world safer for my children and theirs. For that, I shall be forever grateful for his leadership,'' said Reagan's former national security aide, Oliver L. North, who was fired and later convicted for his involvement in the Iran-Contra scandal. Those convictions were overturned based on his testimony before Congress.

Reagan's presidency overlaid the spendthrift 1980s, tagged by some as the ''Greed Decade.'' It was a time of conspicuous consumption, hostile takeovers, new billionaires. American power was ascendant after the angst of the 1970s over Vietnam and the release of the hostages in Iran at the start of his presidency.

In large ways and small - from the president's tough talk against the Evil Empire and ''welfare queens'' to his wife's designer dresses and new china for the White House - the Reagans seemed to embody the times.

And for all the glowing talk of Reagan's folksy appeal and infectious optimism, it was a time of growing division between rich and poor. Now, as then, critics point to Reaganomics in lamenting big defense spending at the expense of domestic needs and a growing national debt.

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Quotes From Reagan's Presidency

· Communism: "I believe that communism is another sad, bizarre chapter in human history whose last pages even now are being written."

· Government: "Government is not the solution, it's the problem."

· On Challenger Crew: "We will never forget them ... as they prepared for the journey and waved goodbye and slipped the surly bonds of earth to touch the face of God."

· Joking While Testing Microphone: "My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes."

· After He Was Shot: "Honey, I forgot to duck."
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Reagan, a Democrat in his acting days, got a taste of politics when he served as president of the Screen Actors Guild from 1947 to 1952, and again from 1959 to 1960.

He appeared in more than 50 films over two decades in Hollywood, with roles ranging from a college professor who raises a chimpanzee in ''Bedtime for Bonzo'' to doomed football star George Gipp in ''Knute Rockne: All-American'' in which he wanted his teammates to ''win just one for the Gipper.''

Reagan lived longer than any U.S. president, spending his last decade in the shrouded seclusion wrought by his disease, tended by his wife, Nancy, whom he called Mommy, and the select few closest to him. Now, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton are the surviving ex-presidents.

''We had been political opponents and became close friends. Barbara and I mourn the loss of a great president and for us a great friend,'' the elder Bush said Saturday.

Ford recalled Reagan as ''an excellent leader of our nation during challenging times at home and abroad.''

Clinton called him ''a true American original.''

Democratic presidential hopeful John Kerry said that Reagan's ''love of country was infectious. Even when he was breaking Democrats' hearts, he did so with a smile and in the spirit of honest and open debate.''

Although she was fiercely protective of Reagan's privacy, Nancy Reagan let people know the former president's mental condition had deteriorated terribly. Last month, she said: ''Ronnie's long journey has finally taken him to a distant place where I can no longer reach him.''

''I pray that as America reflects on the passing of my dad, they will remember a man of integrity, conviction and good humor that changed America and the world for the better,'' Michael Reagan said.

At 69, Reagan was the oldest man ever elected president when he was chosen in 1980, by an unexpectedly large margin over the incumbent Carter.

Near-tragedy struck on his 70th day as president. On March 30, 1981, Reagan was leaving a Washington hotel after addressing labor leaders when a young drifter, John Hinckley, fired six shots at him. A bullet lodged an inch from Reagan's heart, but he recovered.

Four years later he was re-elected by an even greater margin, carrying 49 of the 50 states in defeating Democrat Walter F. Mondale, Carter's vice president.

Reagan's oldest daughter, Maureen, from his first marriage, died in August 2001 at age 60 from cancer. Three other children survive: Michael, from his first marriage, and Patti Davis and Ron from his second.


06/06/04 00:08 EDT
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Old 06-06-2004, 05:25 AM   #17
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My favourite Reagan quote (paraphrased from memory) was on the US economy:

It it moves tax it. If it's still moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidise it.
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Old 06-06-2004, 08:14 AM   #18
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Originally posted by Jorath Calar:
I agree with Johnny, I would rather be dead than suffering from this.

Just on a sidenote... are there any expresidents beside George Bush sr. alive today...
I can't remember if Jimmy Carter is still alive...
Jimmy Carter is still alive, as well as Gerald Ford, George Bush, Sr, and Bill Clinton. I believe that is the complete list of former Presidents that are still living.

As for Ronald Reagan, his Administration revitalized the American economy and his policies put us on the path that has led to where we are today. He was a skilled diplomat, but also knew when to stand his ground. He had a great vision for the country and had the foresight to implement the policies that would accomplish that vision.

He was a great man and he left a great legacy on our country. It's a tragic shame to see such a brilliant mind ravaged by such a horrible disease. I have to believe that death has brought a comforting release for him and his family as well. May he truly rest in peace.
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Old 06-06-2004, 04:32 PM   #19
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He was a good man and may he RIP.
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Old 06-06-2004, 06:27 PM   #20
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At least he died having lived a fulfilled life. It's terrible to see anyone die that way, but a life of 93 years, including a Presidency, well, there are worse ways to live.
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