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Old 10-17-2003, 12:08 PM   #11
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Originally posted by khazadman:
Actually there is an attempt right now to ammend the constitution to allow foreign born citizens the right to run for president. I'm against it though, the present system has worked just fine.
That's discrimination. An American citizen could have American parents, and have spent all their life in America, but because they were born on a parents holiday in England, they are barred from the presidency?

Yet a person born in America to Polish parents who go back to Poland when the child is 1, can return at age 50 and run for president, despite a lifetime outside the country.

Simply because of where you're born?

It flies in the face of egalitarianism. Any American citizen can rise to the top? Bullshit. There is an elite class of American citizen. The American that is born here, not that chooses to be here.

There is a popular female politician who is in a similar boat to Arnold. Except she was born in Canada and moved across the border as a child I believe.

Despite being a citizen with "equal rights", she is barred from ever serving in the top job no matter how capable she is for it.

A heap of hypocritical crap if you ask me.
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Old 10-17-2003, 12:16 PM   #12
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Methinks Yorick has political aims.

Hey, if you think that's the case, there is an Amendment process. The Founding Fathers didn't want to win independence only to have some dastardly Britton or Frenchman rule them again. Think of the time in history, man.

Is it any more unfair that the requirement that the president be at least 35?

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Old 10-18-2003, 03:49 AM   #13
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Methinks Yorick has political aims.

Hey, if you think that's the case, there is an Amendment process. The Founding Fathers didn't want to win independence only to have some dastardly Britton or Frenchman rule them again. Think of the time in history, man.

Is it any more unfair that the requirement that the president be at least 35?
You can one day be 35. You can never change your birthplace.

Totally discriminatory. A model American citizen who lives every day except for a few months at the start of his/her life, is prevented from rising to the top job in the country based on in some cases, a few hundred metres. (Over the Canadian or Mexican borders)

Ridiculously discriminatory and hypocritical.

But I've said enough.

Politics would make me ill BTW Timber.

I do have a very close friend working in the Clarke camp however.
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Old 10-18-2003, 04:57 AM   #14
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Perhaps they should turn the requirement 'age 35' into 'must have lived in the US for at least 35 years'.
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Old 10-18-2003, 11:05 AM   #15
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Well to clear things up, a child born to American parents in another country is considdered an American citizen until the age of majority (18), then they have to declare their citizenship. They can choose to be American with full rights and privleges (even Presidency) or be a citizen of their country of birth.

Yes, there are alot of inconsistancies in the origional Constitution. Not for lack of vision of the dreamer's part, but because when you get a whole bunch of politicians in a room together they tend to muck things up ..... even the infallable Founding Fathers
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Old 10-18-2003, 12:03 PM   #16
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I think that foreign born guys are allowed to be president. But I don't agree someone who has spent more than half their life-time outside the U.S. should be president. But what if your family moved to the U.S. when you were two? You were raised in the U.S. and becomes very capable of becoming president. But can't just because you are not born there. I think the constitution should be changed that says in order to become president you need to live at least I dunno more than 30 years in the U.S.
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