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Old 10-09-2003, 05:51 PM   #11
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And neither would i, hell no.
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Old 10-10-2003, 12:04 AM   #12
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Oh, and my research indicates Spaten are vegan biers.
I thought all beers/ales were vegan? Made from malt, hops, etc? Even the yeast used to ferment is a plant (fungus).

Any care to enlighten me?
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Old 10-10-2003, 03:14 AM   #13
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Excuse me for being cynical, but I think that this 'act of generosity' has more to do with public image and falling US sales than an act of grace.

Not so much "Our German Heroes" as:
"Our worried German Exporters"

Would you have been more approving of "My German Heores"? or perhaps "The US Service Mens German Heroes"?

No matter how you slice it or how cynical you want to be. The American Service Person (on average) Does not insult the person giving free alcohol.
[/QUOTE]Neither would I - and that was not an insult. Businesses have to report to their shareholders and are therefore not in the habit of giving away products without expecting something in return. In this case, I think that they are trying to reverse an apparent loss as a result of a general boycott of German and French products.

The very title of this article, "OUR GERMAN HEROES!", proves that this was a good business move. This german company could have spent millions on an advertising campaign that distanced itself from the views of it's own government and still not achieved the same excellent results that they got from a few cases of beer. Actions speak louder than words, eh?

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Old 10-10-2003, 07:51 AM   #14
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Old 10-10-2003, 10:34 AM   #15
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I thought all beers/ales were vegan? Made from malt, hops, etc? Even the yeast used to ferment is a plant (fungus).

Any care to enlighten me?
Pfft, maybe where YOU shop. The REALLY good stuff is made from the blood of slain puppy dogs.

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Old 10-10-2003, 10:50 AM   #16
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Excuse me for being cynical, but I think that this 'act of generosity' has more to do with public image and falling US sales than an act of grace.

Not so much "Our German Heroes" as:
"Our worried German Exporters"
Well, duh. Hey, if the only reason corporations try to look like good corporations and caring corporations is that it brings real profits in return, then (a) capitalism is working Exactly as it's supposed to and (b) the corporation is being a good guy and still living up to its fiduciary duty to its stockholders.
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Old 10-10-2003, 10:53 AM   #17
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I thought all beers/ales were vegan? Made from malt, hops, etc? Even the yeast used to ferment is a plant (fungus).

Any care to enlighten me?
Pfft, maybe where YOU shop. The REALLY good stuff is made from the blood of slain puppy dogs.

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Actually, many beers use animal extracts, primarily from fish, as an anti-foaming agent. Oddly, some of the cheapest crappiest beers (the American pee-water varieties such as Bud) don't use it -- it's not a cost-cutting thing. Anyway, if you are truly interested, let me know and I'll do a search for you. I found a good listing just by googling "vegan Beers."

Be forewarned, though. My biggest failure as a vegetarian was pointing this out to Wellard, who I believe saw it as "the straw that broke the Camel's back" and gave up vegetarianism.

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Old 10-11-2003, 10:12 AM   #18
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Fish has been used in the production of Guinness for two hundred years - the manufacturers claim that it is therefore a traditional part of the recipe and brewing process and that replacing it would adversely affect the taste and quality.
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