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Old 09-05-2003, 06:03 PM   #11
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So, here's me asking again : when do the U.S. pay their arrear to the U.N. ? [img]smile.gif[/img]
Hopefully never. I'm tired of supporting the damned rest of the world. Here's my idea:
1. Use the "Takings Clause" of the Constitution to appropriate the UN HQ in NY. Pay the appropriate value for it.
2. Make the yearly lease on the UN HQ equal to the US's annual dues.
3. Call it a wash, and pay NADA.
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Old 09-05-2003, 06:06 PM   #12
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Bah Chewie, the U.N. is not yet in Iraq ! What the U.S. basically ask the U.N., is that they send troops, provided the U.S. be in command ...

No, really. "Look, guys, I wiped my ass with the Charter I signed and I owe you money that I don't intend to pay soon, now come join me. You'll do the dirty job and I'll lead. Is that OK ?"

Should the U.S. been dismantled as irrelevant ? [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Why don't we just pull out and let Iraq simply fall into despotism? Bet the UN will jump in then.

That Charter, as amended by stupid agreements since then, ain't worth toilet paper.

Oh, and the UN sending in troops so long as the US will be in command bit. That would be the exact opposite of the normal situaiton. It's been US troops bleeding under the UN banner since Korea, as far as I can tell.

I think a new wave of isolationism is in order. F*** everyone else.
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Old 09-05-2003, 06:18 PM   #13
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So the opposite of international is ......?
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Old 09-05-2003, 06:21 PM   #14
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So the opposite of international is ......?
Deja Vu. I don't have the time to search it out, but you've asked this before. I can't even recall my response. What are you getting at??

I gotta go, but I'd say a few different things could be argued to be the opposite of international, including: local, intranational, and extranational.

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Old 09-05-2003, 06:39 PM   #15
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In part it is a question on changing ideas and ideals that I have been observing, and there is another level of subtitle that is perhaps a little obscure.

Please accept this stick of deodorant as a peace offering to those of the smelly politicians in Washington that need it most.
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Old 09-05-2003, 07:49 PM   #16
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The US coming to the UN now is a clear admission of failure.

They said they would go it alone after all. Casualties continue. The troops there are demoralized and paying for the ineptitude of their leaders in blood.

Well I hope the UN does get involved in Iraq. For the UN to sit on the sidelines while it is the Iraqis who suffer is just plain wrong.

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Old 09-06-2003, 12:06 AM   #17
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I think a new wave of isolationism is in order.
Nah. Since many like to think of us as an empire, we should become an empire for real. Why not fully enjoy the power and prestige we have for a change? You live only once, you know. [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img]

And yes, I am serious....
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Old 09-06-2003, 03:05 AM   #18
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So the U.S. owes the U.N. money we agreed to pay? If so then we should pay, it is the principle of the matter. I dunno the details though at all....
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Old 09-06-2003, 04:32 AM   #19
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I think a new wave of isolationism is in order.
Nah. Since many like to think of us as an empire, we should become an empire for real. Why not fully enjoy the power and prestige we have for a change? You live only once, you know. [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img]

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Old 09-06-2003, 05:15 AM   #20
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So the U.S. owes the U.N. money we agreed to pay? If so then we should pay, it is the principle of the matter. I dunno the details though at all....
It's a tiny amount for the US - but a rather large amount to the UN:

"For more than twenty years, the United States has been regularly delinquent in the payment of its annual assessed contributions to the United Nations and its agencies. U.S. contributions are often ten or more months late owing to the government's practice of seeking congressional appropriation of the funds after the date on which they are actually due; the result is payment of U.S. assessments in the final months of the organizations' budget year...

...Based on U.N. figures, as of 28 February 2003, the United States owed $1.327 billion in both past and current (2003) obligations to the United Nations regular budget, international tribunals, and peacekeeping. Of this amount, arrears owed prior to 1 January 2003 total $738 million. Payment of arrears owed prior to 2003 would require legislative action that either repeals or rescinds the legislation that prompted the withholding in the first place.",

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